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Old April 11, 2003, 18:47   #1
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N.Korea to Japan: "remember, you are within striking distance"
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/1...8,00050004.htm
N Korea reminds Japan it is within striking range
Agence France-Presse
Tokyo, April 9

Japan should remember that it is "within striking distance" of North Korean weapons amid heightened calls in Tokyo to contain North Korea, the official Korean Central News Agency warned on Wednesday.

The Stalinist state's official mouthpiece accused Japan of being emboldened by the US-led invasion of Iraq in its ambition to remilitarise.

"Japan should behave with discretion, clearly mindful that it is also within the striking range of the DPRK (North Korea)," KCNA said in a dispatch monitored.




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So are we beginning to see the start of America's next war?
If America becomes bogged down in Korea, it seems unlikely that they would have enough troops to garrison Iraq in the event of an outbreak of hostilites with Persia or Syria.
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Old April 11, 2003, 18:56   #2
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After hearing the horror stories being told by the Iraqi people and seeing this dialogue from DPRK, can anyone wonder what the axis of evil speech was all about?
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Words, words... They'll never have the balls to strike Japan, because if they do, it won't take 2 months for NK to be transformed into a huge crater.
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I dont see the proof in the international community that IT has the balls to level north korea.

US maybe, whoever north korea targets definitely. but the rest of what is an ultra pacifist world? they would probably send troops that could go behind the US troops. and they would send aid.
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If Kim has 'balls' to attack Japan with anything, the only result will be a massive bloodbath in both nations.
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What do you think Japan is now saying to Bush?
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Im so sick of this dorky, two-bit dictator waving his miniscule **** around just because he might have the capability of striking us or our allies.

I figure while we're on a roll, we might lob a few Kim's way and clear some space for a Disney theme park.

Somebody shut this jackass up once and for all. He makes saddam look like Martha Stewart on suppositories

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I don't think Japan is saying that.
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The US is moving 17,000 troops forward.

The DPRK could do some serious damage to the RoK if a war starts, so let's not start one, Mm'kay? Seoul wouldn't be a happy place if war began.

Anyway, maybe if Bush hadn't called the DPRK part of the axis of evil and then begin threatening to take those countries out, Kim wouldn't have restarted his nuclear weapons program. He's justified in considering the US an agressive country.
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ur defending a psychotic dictator that practices sthe starvation of his own ppl. holds the world hostage for blackmail aid money and openly threatans countries like japan of which I would be hard pressed to think of a more pacifist country.

yah....thats sane.

oh but because bush called him out on some of his indiscretions thats give shim full right to go even more over the edge?
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The US was making progress with the DPRK, and Bush ruined it. BTW, the DPRK doesn't practice the starvation of its own people any more than does Bangledesh or Haiti. Floods caused bad harvests several years in a row. Unless you can show that the DPRK was deliberately releasing dam water to destroy its own crops, you'll have to re-evaluate your statement.

The US has been blackmailing the world for years. We just think we're justified in doing it.
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so u hate the US because we blackmail the world.

but think North korea is justified in blackmailing the world? all in the same thread.

why has this never occured to u?
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I don't recall saying his blackmail was justified. He's justifed in thinking that the US is currently out to get the DPRK. Different statements.
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From http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm :

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Japan's spy satellite launch under fire
Pyongyang, April 10 (KCNA) -- Martin Lotscher, chairman of the Swiss Committee for Supporting Korea's Reunification, in a statement issued on April 1 condemned Japan's launch of spy satellites as a hostile act of threatening the sovereignty of the DPRK and the security of its people. By launching those satellites Japan betrayed its true colors as a faithful stooge and follower of the U.S. imperialists in their moves to provoke the second Korean war, he said.
In a protest letter he sent to the Japanese Prime Minister on the same day he said that Japan's launch of spy satellites poses a direct threat to the DPRK and the Korean people and is a breach of the DPRK-Japan Pyongyang Declaration signed by the prime minister himself.
He urged Japan to stop acts of violating the security and sovereignty of the DPRK and its unreasonable nuclear racket.
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Pyongyang, April 10 (KCNA) -- The South Korean "National Assembly" reportedly decided on April 4 to recommend the authorities to fully examine the sanctions to be applied against the DPRK, talking about a solution to the "nuclear issue." Earlier, the authorities and the "National Assembly" decided to dispatch troops to the Iraqi war of aggression launched by the U.S. in disregard of international law and the UN.
They did so under the pretext that they can solve the DPRK's "nuclear issue" in a peaceful way by currying favor with the U.S.
These facts clearly indicate that the South Korean "National Assembly" is a group of warmongers keen on isolating and stifling the DPRK, pursuant to the U.S. strategy for world domination aimed to bring down one by one those sovereign states it had listed as part of an "axis of evil", its hostile policy toward the DPRK in particular.
The reckless actions on the part of the authorities and "National Assembly" of South Korea are acts of treachery to the nation as they may bring a disastrous nuclear holocaust to the Korean nation. This is intolerable.
Explicitly speaking, the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula surfaced because the U.S. posed a nuclear threat to the DPRK after massively deploying and stockpiling nuclear weapons in and around South Korea for the last more than half a century in line with its hostile policy toward the DPRK.
Pursuant to the U.S. nuclear strategy, South Korea has turned into the biggest nuclear arsenal in the Far East as it has more than 1,000 nuclear weapons, a nuclear advance base for implementing the U.S. strategy to dominate Asia and the Korean Peninsula remains the world's most dangerous nuclear hotspot.
This goes to clearly prove that the U.S. moves to stifle the DPRK with nukes must be stopped and the nuclear weapons deployed in South Korea must be dismantled if the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula is to be settled.
This notwithstanding, the South Korean "National Assembly", while keeping mum about this, called for applying sanctions against the DPRK, talking about the settlement of the DPRK's "nuclear issue." this can not be construed otherwise than a hideous crime as they are keen to stifle the DPRK echoing the U.S. gangster-like assertion for the DPRK's disarming in a bid to meet their sinister political aim and interests in utter disregard of the nation's destiny.
The U.S. demand for the DPRK's scrapping of its "nuclear weapons program before dialogue" would lead to inspection and the resultant disarmament spark a war. The only way of averting a war is to increase one's own just self-defensive means.
The Iraqi war launched by the U.S. preemptive attack clearly proves that a war can be prevented and the security of the country and the nation can be ensured only when one has physical deterrent force, a military deterrent force strong enough to decisively repel any attack of the enemy with any types of sophisticated weapons.
If the U.S. launches a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula, all the Koreans in the north and the south will suffer from it and the Korean nation will be exterminated.
If the South Korean authorities and its "National Assembly" are truly concerned about the destiny of the nation, it should remain true to the June 15 joint declaration and opt for inter-Korean cooperation for the survival of the nation, instead of cooperating with outsiders.
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Pyongyang, April 10 (KCNA) -- If Japan continues going ahead with preparations for reinvasion of Korea with the help of the United States, the kingpin of state-sponsored terrorism, it will have to pay dearly for its reckless behavior, said the top official of a social organization of Korea on Wednesday. In an interview with KCNA, Rom Sun Gil, chairman of the central committee of the General Federation of Trade Unions of Korea, said:
Recently, Japanese conservatives have openly called for a preemptive attack on the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
They, availing themselves of the U.S. hostile policy towards the DPRK, intend to retake the old position of Japan and reinvade Korea.
As soon as the United States started the military attack on Iraq, Japan set up a "headquarters of emergency measures" and has kept a close eye on the DPRK. Worse still, the Japanese conservatives say that in case "North Korea is going to launch missiles to Japan", it would not be a breach of the constitution to make an preemptive attack on the missile launching sites and that a war with North Korea would not be ruled out. They also say that before Japan is submerged in flames, it is necessary to make a preemptive attack on North Korea with the help of the United States.
Their remarks indicate that they want to repeat the holocaust Japan inflicted on Korea in the past, and establish the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere".
The Korean people will never forget all crimes of the blackest dye committed by Japan during more than 40 years of its military occupation of Korea.
The indiscreet behavior of Japan, which still regards the DPRK as "enemy" and refrains from the settlement of the past wrongdoings, waiting for a chance to reinvade Korea, only heightens the vigilance of the Korean people.
Japan would be well advised to behave itself with a correct understanding of the situation.
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The US is moving 17,000 troops forward.

The DPRK could do some serious damage to the RoK if a war starts, so let's not start one, Mm'kay? Seoul wouldn't be a happy place if war began.

Anyway, maybe if Bush hadn't called the DPRK part of the axis of evil and then begin threatening to take those countries out, Kim wouldn't have restarted his nuclear weapons program. He's justified in considering the US an agressive country.
We now know they've been reprocessing their old spent fuel rods for several years now. The main reason Kim restarted his breeder reacter is so he can replace the spent fuel rods he's already reprocessed. Bush's speech had little or (more likely) nothing to do with Kim's half decade old policy other then it gave Kim a convient time to inform the world he'd been breaking treaties and being a generally naughty boy.
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yah north korea got hit by floods. but its also a radical gov't under sanctions practicing a very oppressive and volatile regime. who while can't feed its own ppl can maintain one of the 10 largest militaries ont he planet. and one decently impressive capital city.

incidently north korea has denied the level of starving in its own country while at the same time asking the world for aid, and now at the same time threataning countries like japan w/ its nuclear arsenal.
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The nuclear program was reactivated prior to the Axis of Evil speech Che. Don't be an apologist for any regime that claims to be Communist. You and I know full well that's just a bullshit claim that Kim uses to justify exploiting his people. He's no better than any other dictator and a good deal worse than most.

Would you defend Pinochet if he were in the same situation?
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Doesn't that DPRK rag read like some junior high essay?

"These facts clearly indicate that the South Korean "National Assembly" is a group of warmongers keen on isolating and stifling the DPRK, pursuant to the U.S. strategy for world domination aimed to bring down one by one those sovereign states it had listed as part of an "axis of evil", its hostile policy toward the DPRK in particular."

I mean, I know it's not their native language, but other foreign newpapers are able to write things that aren't so idiotic. It's not propaganda that bothers me, it's propaganda that lacks tact and subtlety. At least pretend like you're trying to convince me of something.
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Sanctions are the anwser. Of course we won't call them sancations instead we should simply stop giving this maniac something for nothing. He must realize he is entitled to nothing and the only time we will give him aid is when he is behaiving like a good boy.

Sure he'll threaten, he'll make demands, and all sorts of wild aqusations but then he'll shut up and do as he's told because he has no other choice. He doesn't have the resources (oil, food, spare parts) to sustain a war and Kim knows it. He also knows he's forces are far, far behind both South Korea and Japan much less the U.S..

What we need are the balls to say no to this freak and he will start behaiving more acceptably.
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so oerdin ur gna use the ppl of north korea as pawns to attempt to get a psychotic dictator to listen to u? sounds very humane.
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tell him no. he doesn't have the balls to attack skorea.

but don't ever, ever, try and attack him first. korea's not a pretty place to engage a ground war in.

unlike iraq, which is flat, korea is mountainous, forested, and heavily fortified--both sides, not just the north. the north just happens to be more heavily fortified. even worse, there are scores of military hardware scattered throughout the north in positions we don't know of yet.

this, naturally, would cause air cover to be less effective, and naval support to be less effective, and make ground war hell.

a different path must be found.
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Re: N.Korea to Japan: "remember, you are within striking distance"
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If America becomes bogged down in Korea, it seems unlikely that they would have enough troops to garrison Iraq in the event of an outbreak of hostilites with Persia or Syria.
Where is Persia?
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Anyway, maybe if Bush hadn't called the DPRK part of the axis of evil and then begin threatening to take those countries out, Kim wouldn't have restarted his nuclear weapons program. He's justified in considering the US an agressive country.
As others have said, the North Korean nuclear program never ended; they merely suspended their plutonium-based program and switched to a secret uranium-enrichment program. To say that the "Axis of Evil" speech was the cause of the North Korean nuclear program, not a reaction to it, is moronic at best.
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Don't call Che a moron. He knows his stuff. He's just a troll, which is worse. It's someone who should know better but insists on saying stupid things.
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"The US is an aggressive country so we're going to develope WMD's to defend ourselves." Yeah. Like we're going to be less likely to attack you.
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Some of you live in a vacuum. Kim want someone to feed his people, so he can continual to spend 80% of GDP on the military and the other 20% in his bank account. About 2 month ago if some of you can remember, the Internet listed all of the bad guys in the world and their bank accounts. Kim was right in the middle of the bad guys. If Saddam is still alive, he had quite a bit stashed somewhere. Arafat had hundreds of million. One of them, can't remember which one now had almost a Billion. So if you want to be rich, become a dictator.
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"The US is an aggressive country so we're going to develope WMD's to defend ourselves." Yeah. Like we're going to be less likely to attack you.
OR "You're damn right were an aggressive country. Deal with it, and live right"
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Answers to what? Didn't work on Iraq, didn't work on Cuba. In fact, sanction has never worked on anybody.
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