Thread Tools
Old April 19, 2003, 15:47   #121
Ted Striker
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Emperor
 
Ted Striker's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Batallón de San Patricio, United States of America
Posts: 3,696
Greece resents us because of our freedom.
__________________
"Let the People know the facts and the country will be saved." Abraham Lincoln

Mis Novias
Ted Striker is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 15:48   #122
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Who gives a rat's ass about US and UK (besides them that is) so that's no surprise

I thought France would back down and that Russia would abandon it.... but it didn't happen
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 15:59   #123
Paul Hanson
King
 
Paul Hanson's Avatar
 
Local Time: 00:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Dilbert
Posts: 1,839
I think there ought to be a veto quota; each country gets so many a year, and when it's used them up, it can't have any more.

Should be a laugh, if nothing else.
__________________
"Paul Hanson, you should give Gibraltar back to the Spanish" - Paiktis, dramatically over-estimating my influence in diplomatic circles.

Eyewerks - you know you want to visit. No really, you do. Go on, click me.
Paul Hanson is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:00   #124
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
I think it should be like the Eurovision.
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:01   #125
Paul Hanson
King
 
Paul Hanson's Avatar
 
Local Time: 00:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Dilbert
Posts: 1,839
Yeah, but then Greece would just veto anything to do with Cyprus and we'd get nowhere.
__________________
"Paul Hanson, you should give Gibraltar back to the Spanish" - Paiktis, dramatically over-estimating my influence in diplomatic circles.

Eyewerks - you know you want to visit. No really, you do. Go on, click me.
Paul Hanson is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:04   #126
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
You get veto in the Eurovision?

We'll always get the douze points though from Cyprus.
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:28   #127
SlowwHand
inmate
Civilization II MultiplayerApolytoners Hall of FameGameLeague
Deity
 
SlowwHand's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
Macedonia supports the Coalition effort.

http://defendamerica.mil/iraq/worldviews041703.html
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
SlowwHand is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:29   #128
Ben Kenobi
Civilization II Democracy GameCivilization II Succession GamesCivilization II Multiplayer
Emperor
 
Ben Kenobi's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 18,269
For how long will we be able to exclude India? That's an awful lot of people in a growing economy.

Besides, appoint Canada to the Security Council and demote the French. Canada can represent the interests of France anyways.
__________________
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette and Adam Smith you will be missed
"All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - JRR Tolkein
Get busy living or get busy dying.
Ben Kenobi is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:38   #129
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Quote:
As a peace-loving member of the community of democratic nations, Macedonia did not want this war
Way to go FYROM... you might have a future after all...
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:51   #130
Ted Striker
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Emperor
 
Ted Striker's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Batallón de San Patricio, United States of America
Posts: 3,696
FYROM is that that new boy band?
__________________
"Let the People know the facts and the country will be saved." Abraham Lincoln

Mis Novias
Ted Striker is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:54   #131
Ted Striker
Apolytoners Hall of Fame
Emperor
 
Ted Striker's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Batallón de San Patricio, United States of America
Posts: 3,696
Eurocom boy band FYROM resents us because of our freedom.
__________________
"Let the People know the facts and the country will be saved." Abraham Lincoln

Mis Novias
Ted Striker is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:54   #132
Drake Tungsten
Deity
 
Drake Tungsten's Avatar
 
Local Time: 19:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
Quote:
FYROM is that that new boy band?
No. They are the once and future masters of the FOPG.
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
Drake Tungsten is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 16:57   #133
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
You're just pissed cause Osama gave you what you had coming.
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:00   #134
Drake Tungsten
Deity
 
Drake Tungsten's Avatar
 
Local Time: 19:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
Just like Alexander gave you what you had coming.
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
Drake Tungsten is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:07   #135
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Persia never stood a chance
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:07   #136
SlowwHand
inmate
Civilization II MultiplayerApolytoners Hall of FameGameLeague
Deity
 
SlowwHand's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
quote:
As a peace-loving member of the community of democratic nations, Macedonia did not want this war


Way to go FYROM... you might have a future after all...







Not really, since as I corrected, Macedonia does support.
Gave you a link and what good does it do?
None.
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
SlowwHand is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:10   #137
Drake Tungsten
Deity
 
Drake Tungsten's Avatar
 
Local Time: 19:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
Quote:
Persia never stood a chance
Neither did Greece. Just because you jumped on the bandwagon after the Macedonians kicked your ass doesn't mean that the victory was yours. FYROM > FOPG
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
Drake Tungsten is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:11   #138
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Firstly, since the US has recognized this "country" as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, you calling it Macedonia is unpatriotic


On a separate note, I'm glad to see... France in that link (and Mongolia )
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:12   #139
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Macedonia was and is Greek.

Can't say Osama was American...
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:14   #140
SlowwHand
inmate
Civilization II MultiplayerApolytoners Hall of FameGameLeague
Deity
 
SlowwHand's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
France? That's to be a Spanish suburb.
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
SlowwHand is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:15   #141
Drake Tungsten
Deity
 
Drake Tungsten's Avatar
 
Local Time: 19:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
Quote:
Macedonia was and is Greek.
The Greeks of the time didn't think so; you're just spewing revisionist history in order to claim Alexander's successes for your crap country. No dice.
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
Drake Tungsten is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:16   #142
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Only Demosthenes called them Barbarians so as to gain as much support for Athens as possible.

Still don't change the fact that you should make a statue of Osama and worship him for the good he has done for you... ungrateful bunch
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:19   #143
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Or France

I mean really you are savages compared to France. It has every right to tell you to bugger off. Think about it...
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:19   #144
SlowwHand
inmate
Civilization II MultiplayerApolytoners Hall of FameGameLeague
Deity
 
SlowwHand's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
paiktis. you been breathing that laughing gas too much.

Wasn't it Socrates that was the redneck?
Threw people through the air and that?
Yeah. I think so.
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
SlowwHand is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:20   #145
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Socrates invended the dwarf tossing an ageless honouring tradition.
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:23   #146
SlowwHand
inmate
Civilization II MultiplayerApolytoners Hall of FameGameLeague
Deity
 
SlowwHand's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
I knew there was something I revered him for.
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
SlowwHand is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 17:36   #147
Bereta_Eder
Settler
 
Bereta_Eder's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 65,535
Quote:
Originally posted by SlowwHand
paiktis. you been breathing that laughing gas too much.

Just got that one BTW

God knows how much
Bereta_Eder is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 18:32   #148
Maniac
Alpha Centauri Democracy GameC4DG Team Alpha CentauriansACDG The Cybernetic ConsciousnessACDG Planet University of TechnologyPolyCast TeamACDG3 Spartans
 
Maniac's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Gent, Belgium
Posts: 10,712
Anyway, to get this back on topic... Instead of making wish lists and wild guesses about who deserves to be in the Security Council, let's just look at some figures and decide based on that. Let's take population and GDP for starters:

Code:
GDP in 10tothe9th dollars: * population in millions: * GDP*POP=
1.  US:        10171         281                       2858051
2.  Japan:      4245         127                        539115
3.  Germany:    1873          83                        155459
4.  UK:         1406          60                         84360
5.  France:     1302          60                         78120
6.  China:      1160        1284                       1489440
7.  Italy:      1090          58                         63220 
8.  Canada:      677          31                         20987     
9.  Mexico:      617         103                         63551        
10. Spain:       577          40                         23080
11. Brazil:      502         176                         88352
12. India:       477        1046                        498942 
13. S-Korea:     422          48                         20256                     
14. Netherlands: 375          16                          6000
15. Australia:   368          20                          7360
16. Russia:      310         145                         44950
17. Argentina:   269          38                         10222
18. Switzerland: 247           7                          1729
19. Belgium:     227          10                          2270
20. Sweden:      210           9                          1890
Three other populated countries/regions:
xx. Indonesia    173         232                         40136 
xx. Pakistan      59         148                          8732
xx. EU25        8200?        452?                      3706400
Yes, I had too much time to waste.

Based on that, I'd say my Security Council should consist of:
USA
China
Japan
India
Germany
UK
and, of course:
France

And if the EU should get one seat, again based on GDP and population:
USA (3 votes)
EU (3 votes - we'll be modest for now and accept parity with the USA )
China (2 votes)
Japan and India (1 vote)
__________________
Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)
Maniac is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 18:46   #149
Lazerus
Alpha Centauri PBEMNationStates
King
 
Lazerus's Avatar
 
Local Time: 00:55
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Empires were built by dictators, not democracies.
Posts: 2,869
The EU .. urgh almost as big a waste as the UN itself
I don't why France bothers trying to do anything on the world stage, nobody ever takes any notice, they'll only listen when France agrees with them.
__________________
Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.
Lazerus is offline  
Old April 19, 2003, 18:53   #150
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 19:55
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
Macedonia was and is Greek.
Or is Greece was and is Macedonia .

I guess during WW2, some French said France was and is Germany .
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 19:55.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Apolyton Civilization Site | Copyright © The Apolyton Team