More evidence of western press doctoring photos during Iraq War

monkspider · April 29, 2003, 22:07

http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/e...dard-crowd.htm

Just another example in a long line of the subtle deceptions that the conservative-dominated media will use to push people towards supporting illegal wars of aggression.

JohnT · April 29, 2003, 22:11

You know, "those people all look alike" is not a favorable argument by any means.

Spiffor · April 29, 2003, 22:12

IIRC, it was Churchill who said the first victim of a war was always truth ? I don't see anything surprising in having been fed with lies during wartime. The belief our newssources are unbiased have always made a propagandist's delight.

However, despite this fake image, I still believe may people cheered the US troops when they first arrived in Baghdad. Probably not in throngs like this, but many people nontheless.

Tuberski · April 29, 2003, 22:12

Quote:

Originally posted by monkspider
http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/e...dard-crowd.htm

Just another example in a long line of the subtle deceptions that the conservative-dominated media will use to push people towards supporting illegal wars of aggression.

I agree:

"They are cheering, we must punish them!!!!!"

ACK!

DRoseDARs · April 29, 2003, 22:17

Staying out of the pro-war vs anti-war arguement, the point is to show how "journalism" has been abused by this publisher. Why is such behaviour tolerated in journalism?

Again, focus not on the war, but how it's presented by this image.

Urban Ranger · April 29, 2003, 22:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Spiffor
However, despite this fake image, I still believe may people cheered the US troops when they first arrived in Baghdad. Probably not in throngs like this, but many people nontheless.

[Emphasis my own]

I like how this barb is hidden.

Ted Striker · April 29, 2003, 22:34

My crotch itches

DRoseDARs · April 29, 2003, 22:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted Striker
My crotch itches

Wow...that's totally out of left field. I applaud you, TS.

Urban Ranger · April 29, 2003, 22:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted Striker
My crotch itches

Here, apply some concentrated hydrochloric acid.

Kuciwalker · April 29, 2003, 23:25

My neck itches!

noise that always plays aftera stand up comedian says a punchline

Sava · April 29, 2003, 23:34

Gee what a surprise, now let's wait for the FOX watching doomasses to call this a leftist conspiracy.

Kuciwalker · April 29, 2003, 23:40

Sava... what did you achieve with that comment?

Think about it for a moment... all you did was insult people. Did you gain anything from it? Did you change any of these "FOX watching doomasses" minds about an issue? You achieved one thing... a little more spite between you and the "FOX watching doomasses".

btw, I don't watch TV news, so I'm not just defending myself.

Ted Striker · April 29, 2003, 23:41

Giancarlo · April 29, 2003, 23:46

Quote:

Originally posted by monkspider
http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/e...dard-crowd.htm

Just another example in a long line of the subtle deceptions that the conservative-dominated media will use to push people towards supporting illegal wars of aggression.

Illegal Wars? Man who the hell are you? The Iraqi Information Minister? You are starting to sound like him. Get something original. Not something from the communist underground. Conservative dominated media? Wake up, the media has always been leftist.

I am sorry to bring this old style of me, but I have no choice. In the light of the insanity demonstrated by several people here I must expose them for their arrogance.

Kuciwalker · April 29, 2003, 23:48

Fez, that was just as bad as Sava's post.

monkspider · April 29, 2003, 23:49

Don't worry Sky, it's Fez's style. We wouldn't want it any other way.

Giancarlo · April 29, 2003, 23:52

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker
Fez, that was just as bad as Sava's post.

Just blowing some steam.. I am pissed off...

At you monkspider.. I been reading your posts.. and all they do is annoy the heck out of me. I try to ignore them, but they are so.. ugh...

Urban Ranger · April 30, 2003, 00:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Fez
Illegal Wars?

Not only the invasion of Iraq is illegal, but it is also undeclared. You know, Pearl Harbour?

Nubclear · April 30, 2003, 00:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Fez
The Iraqi Information Minister?

I THOUGHT I WAS!!!!!!!!!

BECAUSE YOUR NOT WITH ME ON THIS ONE, YOUR NOT MY FRIEND ANYMORE FEZ!!!

The Mad Monk · April 30, 2003, 00:52

...doomasses?

DinoDoc · April 30, 2003, 01:05

Strange that they changed the pic especially since I can not see any real difference between the two.

Sirotnikov · April 30, 2003, 01:34

Exactly what DinoDoc said.

I loaded their pic in photoshop and improved it a bit, and the people most certainly look different.

The only reason for "blurs" and "look alikes" is that the writer has purposefully scanned the picture in a really small resolution, and then resized it so that all the faces would look like a bunch of pixels, that can be claimed to "look alike".

Gatekeeper · April 30, 2003, 02:55

As a journalist, I wonder if the good Simone Moore and Russ Kick bothered to even contact the Evening Standard prior to posting the alleged doctored photo to see what the newspaper in question had to say.

At this point in time, I am aware of *one* instance in Western media where a photo was manipulated and published. The photo and manipulation was done by a photographer for the Los Angeles Times. The photographer submitted the manipulated photo to his unknowing editors, who didn't discover his trickery until *after* the photo had run.

The photographer basically took parts of two photographs and, using Photoshop (or similar software), combined certain elements from each photo into a single photo, which then was published. It wasn't even a major change done by the photog — he basically shifted a smiling soldier closer to a smiling child and manipulated the angle slightly.

The end result? The photographer was immediately *fired* from his position and is now BLACKLISTED by reputable news organizations in print, television and the Internet. IOW, people, this man will *never* again hold a job as photojournalist, all because of a moment of idiocy on his part.

The moral of the story? Don't f*ck with the photos, and don't f*ck with the news copy, because when we find out, we will terminate your journalism career.

Journalists can take care of their own malcontents w/o the "assistance" of such Internet sites as The Memory Hole.

Gatekeeper

Imran Siddiqui · April 30, 2003, 03:42

Quote:

I loaded their pic in photoshop and improved it a bit, and the people most certainly look different.

*Gasp* The left lying to say their opponents are liars? NO!

How ironic!

Zevico · April 30, 2003, 03:52

Indeed. I wonder how, exactly, the New York Times stuffed up that famous "policeman in front of bleeding Israeli" photo...that isn't stupid, that's crossing the line from stupidity to utter lieing.

Nubclear · April 30, 2003, 04:02

Quote:

Originally posted by monkspider
http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/e...dard-crowd.htm

Just another example in a long line of the subtle deceptions that the conservative-dominated media will use to push people towards supporting illegal wars of aggression.

Why is it that you Anglo peoples cant get good propaganda?

Come over to Moscow or Beijing and learn a thing or two about propaganda.

notyoueither · April 30, 2003, 04:06

Conservative-dominated media

Nubclear · April 30, 2003, 04:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
As a journalist, I wonder if the good Simone Moore and Russ Kick bothered to even contact the Evening Standard prior to posting the alleged doctored photo to see what the newspaper in question had to say.

At this point in time, I am aware of *one* instance in Western media where a photo was manipulated and published. The photo and manipulation was done by a photographer for the Los Angeles Times. The photographer submitted the manipulated photo to his unknowing editors, who didn't discover his trickery until *after* the photo had run.

The photographer basically took parts of two photographs and, using Photoshop (or similar software), combined certain elements from each photo into a single photo, which then was published. It wasn't even a major change done by the photog — he basically shifted a smiling soldier closer to a smiling child and manipulated the angle slightly.

The end result? The photographer was immediately *fired* from his position and is now BLACKLISTED by reputable news organizations in print, television and the Internet. IOW, people, this man will *never* again hold a job as photojournalist, all because of a moment of idiocy on his part.

The moral of the story? Don't f*ck with the photos, and don't f*ck with the news copy, because when we find out, we will terminate your journalism career.

Journalists can take care of their own malcontents w/o the "assistance" of such Internet sites as The Memory Hole.

Gatekeeper

Your posts are looking a little less extreme.....And it's beginning to encourage me to step out of my "extreme left wing communist" stance.

Gatekeeper · April 30, 2003, 04:30

I haven't changed my contributions much over the years, Tass. It's *you* who is changing, not me. Welcome to Club Moderate, but be warned: we're alcohol-free.

Gatekeeper

TCO · April 30, 2003, 08:11

This is silly. I don't even see what you're talking about with the photos. And where is the Standard reaction? Where are the other papers running stories on this manipulation? May as well go to Indymedia.com for this kind of tripe.

Sorry idiot. Iraqis cheered to get rid of Saddam. Go choke on it.