May 17, 2003, 15:32
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AND HERE'S THE KICKER:
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There is no evidence, save communist propaganda, that the US had anything to do with Pinochet.
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FROM THE CIA'S OWN WEBSITE!!!
"Under “Track II” of the strategy, CIA sought to instigate a coup to prevent Allende from taking office after he won a plurality in the 4 September election and before"
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/chile/index.html#6
"After the coup in September 1973, CIA suspended new covert action funding but continued some ongoing propaganda projects, including support for news media committed to creating a positive image for the military Junta."
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/chile/index.html#6
Operation Condor - "Within a year after the coup, the CIA and other US Government agencies were aware of bilateral cooperation among regional intelligence services to track the activities of and, in at least a few cases, kill political opponents. This was the precursor to Operation Condor, an intelligence-sharing arrangement among Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay established in 1975."
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/chile/index.html#10
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May 17, 2003, 15:42
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Originally posted by ixnay
gogo uSA we're nummer won
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That is the scariest man I have ever seen.
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May 17, 2003, 16:14
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Ned, there's IMHO nothing inherently "wrong" with American patriotism by itself, if that's the question.
It's "good", relatively speaking, alright....
But people can and should be free to object to such things as the "Freedom fries" issue, or the flag over Saddam's statue without being seen as "bad", or "unpatriotic" by some.
If that is not acceptable (and according to some people, it isn't....), then patriotism can be "stupid" indeed....or rather, those people that exaggerate their patriotism in such a manner tend to fit the stereotype of "stupid patriotic Americans".
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May 17, 2003, 16:54
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Originally posted by Ned
Master Zen, on the issue of Latin America not wanting us, I bet they do want us when law and order completely breaks down and mobs are wandering the streets. The people who want us are the avearage folk who simply want good government that will protect them and their property. The people of Latin American who do not want us are the communists and their allies who want to impose an egalitarian dark age on Latin America in the mold of Castro's medieval nightmare of abuse.
Think about it.
Why are you, Master Zen, taking the sides of brutal dictators, theives and communists against America? Are you one of these?
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OMG, so much wisdom in only one post. 
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Elisa Carrio: No, porque si usted lee bien el Génesis dice que la mujer pisará la serpiente.
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May 17, 2003, 17:19
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Senor, I beleive the CIA has admitted that some of its paid agents participated in attrocities. They eventually were terminated as agents. This had a lot to do with preventing the CIA from employing "unsavory" types as agents after the Church committee report came out.
Yes, Nixon did try to prevent Allende from coming to power in 1970 through a coup. But by 1973, it had long abandoned the idea of a coup, and continue to fund/orchastrate anti-Allende propaganda.
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May 17, 2003, 17:23
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Revisionist! 
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May 17, 2003, 17:36
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Revisionist!
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May 17, 2003, 18:22
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Originally posted by Ned
by 1973, it had long abandoned the idea of a coup, and continue to fund/orchastrate anti-Allende propaganda.
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That's crap. Kissinger orchestrated the assassination of the Chief of the Army who stood in the way of the coup. He's being sued because of it.
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May 17, 2003, 20:20
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I CANT BELIEVE THE NUMER OF COMMIES IN HERE!
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May 17, 2003, 20:21
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OOOOHH SO WE KILLED A FEW PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER! SO WHAT???
OOOOOH SO WE SUPPORTED A BAD DICTATOR IN A COUNTRY THAT DONT REALLY MATTER!!! SO WHAT???
THIS IS AMERICA! WE'RE THE MOST POWERFUL , WE'RE THE SUPERPOWER GET USED TO IT!
EUROPE IS OUR BI*** AND THE LATIN COUNTRIES IS OUR PLAYGROUND!
SORRY IF THIS BIT OF TRUTH RUINED YOUR RICE AND BEANS! 
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!
I WANT MORE PICS OF THE BIMBOS!!!!
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May 17, 2003, 20:35
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Better eagle than turkey...
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Ben Franklin wanted the national emblem to be the turkey. 
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May 17, 2003, 20:58
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originally posted by Ned:
John, I'm really beginning to wonder about you.
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For reading about a point of view? 
I think TOUGHGUYUSA should be banned from this forum forever. It is people like him that this thread is targeted at. People like him fill America with a vile stench that ruins this land.
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OOOOHH SO WE KILLED A FEW PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER!
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OOOOHH SO OSAMA BIN LADEN KILLED A FEW PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER!
Does a human life matter to you? Some idiots like you think that if you're wealthy you're a better person than one in a 3rd world country, therefore it's okay for those poor people to die but if a bunch of Americans die it's bad. 911 hasn't killed a fraction as many lives as the US has killed or helped get killed.
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May 17, 2003, 21:06
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Why would we ban a DL?
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May 17, 2003, 21:09
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Prince
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originally posted by TOUGHGUYUSA:
SO WHAT???
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If everyone in our country was like you, whoever was the president would set himself up as a dictator, destroy every person's rights, and try to take over the world. After all, since you believe it doesn't matter if we do something wrong many things that are wrong will be done.
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originally posted by a complete idiot:
THE LATIN COUNTRIES IS OUR PLAYGROUND!
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Shows how great our public education system is in teaching us how to speak English. A playground for murdering? Is it because Americans are murderers and killing is fun so we call it a playground?!
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THIS IS AMERICA! WE'RE THE MOST POWERFUL , WE'RE THE SUPERPOWER GET USED TO IT!
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Your arrogance shows how naive you are, or maybe it's your complete stupidity. If the entire world even put an embargo against us our economy would completely collapse, which would probably cause our government to be overthrown. If all the nations in the world fought against us, we would be wiped out in a matter of days.
We maybe stronger than many other nations, but we're human.
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"The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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May 17, 2003, 21:19
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hi ,
can you go and post your BS somewhere else
bye
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May 17, 2003, 21:50
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Originally posted by Ned
Senor, I beleive the CIA has admitted that some of its paid agents participated in attrocities. They eventually were terminated as agents. This had a lot to do with preventing the CIA from employing "unsavory" types as agents after the Church committee report came out.
Yes, Nixon did try to prevent Allende from coming to power in 1970 through a coup. But by 1973, it had long abandoned the idea of a coup, and continue to fund/orchastrate anti-Allende propaganda.
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You see the evidence and you still disregarded it, Sr Llera put up like how many articules to back up his side, and you haven't even bothered to cite one major claim to the contrary. Ned, you are truly hopeless....
And not how I am not even bothering to argue in detail over these things anymore, it is quite useless to people so blinded by their own twisted view of reality. Face it Ned, you lose.
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May 17, 2003, 21:55
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Originally posted by Ned
John, I'm really beginning to wonder about you.
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What so now everyone of your countrymen have to agree with what you say, and what your government tells them to believe? What ever happened to individualism? I know the brainwashed fascists and communists used to say things exactly like that...just change the John to Hans or Yuri 50 years ago...
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May 17, 2003, 22:07
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May 17, 2003, 22:16
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May 17, 2003, 22:35
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May 17, 2003, 22:42
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I SAID MORE BIMBOS!!!!!!
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May 17, 2003, 22:45
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I SAID MORE BIMBOS!!!!!!
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Where's the vomit smiley? 
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May 17, 2003, 22:49
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isnt that a man?
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May 17, 2003, 22:51
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Prince
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this DL belongs to either one of Poly's hyperconservative, trying to be a jerk, or one of the Uber-liberals, trying to make the Tighty rightys look like jerks...  whose could it be?
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May 17, 2003, 22:52
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Now I know that TOUGHUSAGUY is French.
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May 17, 2003, 23:24
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Sick! Is that the same one? Where are they finding these women?
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1 John 2:3 - ... we know Christ if we obey his commandments. (GWT)
John 14:6 - Jesus said to him, "I am ... the truth." (NKJV)
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May 17, 2003, 23:39
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Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
Where's the vomit smiley?
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Here : 
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May 17, 2003, 23:45
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kidicious, i'm sure you could google the name...
makes you sad that these are being touted as the height of american femininity...
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May 17, 2003, 23:47
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Originally posted by Q Cubed
kidicious, i'm sure you could google the name...
makes you sad that these are being touted as the height of american femininity...
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And the worst part is that we don't know who is doing it. DL, be a man! Show yourself
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May 17, 2003, 23:51
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Originally posted by Kidicious
And the worst part is that we don't know who is doing it. DL, be a man! Show yourself
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if he were a man, he would not need a DL, now would he? Unless it isn't a DL, but just some trully objectionable human being....
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