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Old May 11, 2003, 03:47   #1
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I Have Solved the Game Crash
Thanks to some clues which NYE pointed out and some of my own experience, I solved the problem with the game save. NYE is right, and it did have to do with the Vox-GOW war status.

To solve the problem, I had GOW re-offer peace to Vox, and Vox to do the same on their turn, both accepted. After finishing the Lego turn, the game continued as normal.

*Trip throws PTWDG.BIX into the proverbial trash can in the sky.
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God bless nye and Trip!

All hail our saviours!



We now apparently need someone from GoW to start with (hopefully the last) replay, adding the peace reneg to whatever was originally done during the GoW turn of 570BC.

HALLELUJAH!
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Good news!

Thanks for your excellent work.
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Fantastic! Thanks a lot.
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Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.
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Wow, great news Trip [edit: and nye]!

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Old May 11, 2003, 05:23   #8
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Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.
No clue... All that I know is that manually re-negotiating it caused the game not to crash.
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Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.
In the Pandora PBEM, there was no price attached in the peace treaty, and still the bug occured.
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I can play the save, just tell me exactly which year and what I need to do to get it going again.
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570 doesn't allow me the option of offering a peace treaty. There is still one active.
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Wow, If this isn't a previously reported bug, then you can call it the Trip/nye Peace Renegotiation Bug. This needs to be reported to Fraxis.

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Trip, you might want to keep that bix file around, because what will happen in 20 turns when it gets to the same point with peace.

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570 doesn't allow me the option of offering a peace treaty. There is still one active.
Go to the trade screen, click on "active" at the bottom, and either add or delete what's currently there. I'm not sure exactly what I did, but they should both have the same effect.
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Go to the trade screen, click on "active" at the bottom, and either add or delete what's currently there. I'm not sure exactly what I did, but they should both have the same effect.
They may not be able to do it. Vox may need to do it.
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Is the bug something that crops up any time a peace treaty hits 20 turns, or only if there is a price attached to the treaty? I know in SP, straight peace treaties with nothing else involved don't require renegotiation at the twenty-turn mark.
No price required. It happens when the 20 turns expires.

It has been reported to Firaxis.
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Trip, nye... Thank-you!

Now I can get back to some honest war reporting...
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This is just great! Trip, NYE- you're the best

For all you anime Otakus out there- because of my utter lack of social life and the fact that this game was off for a while. I got all the episodes of Cowboy Bebob from a friend and watched them. A very well made piece of animation, and the music rocks, but I was quite disturbed by the ending, and now i just can't let go- I can't believe it's over...

If any of you hasn't seen the series, and has a chance to- do so, you won't regret it.


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Bebop is definitely a good piece of ink.

One of my favorites along with Eva and Trigun.
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I was feeling the same when I finished watching Full Metal Panic. It was such a cute show, and the visuals were SO ****ING AMAZING, that I just couldn't believe it when it was over.
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