IS it me or do people get their priorities wrong. - Page 2

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:45

I think it's wrong... period... not much more to elaborate on. Call me selfish, but my organs are mine. If I want to donate them upon my death, that's my business and my decision. Not the states. If I lived in Israel, upon my death, I would give instructions to my family to destroy my body rather than have the state harvest my organs. It's a principality thing. Apparantly you guys don't understand.

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 14:47

I didn't know that dead people had property rights. I guess you learn something new every day.

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:48

ever hear of a "will"?

Japher · May 12, 2003, 14:48

I am going to attatch a trigger to my heart, so that when it stops beating for say 1 hour, then all my innards explode... hahaha

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:48

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 14:48

Would you be happier with the whole thing if the state had an organ tax? Y'know, where you (the beneficiaries of your estate) paid a tax for every organ that you (they) refused to donate?

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:50

That would be just as wrong... and what about if I die in an explosion? Do they still have to pay the tax because my organs couldn't have been harvested?

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 14:51

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ever hear of a "will"?

Sure, ever hear of an estate tax? Are you going to instruct your relatives to blow up your property so that the state can't get its grubby paws on any percentage of it?

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 14:52

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Originally posted by Sava
That would be just as wrong...

So you're opposed to estate taxes in general, or only estate taxes that you arbitrarily disagree with?

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and what about if I die in an explosion? Do they still have to pay the tax because my organs couldn't have been harvested?

Use some common sense. If you're blown up with your house, then your house is not taxed with your estate.

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:53

I'm opposed to estate taxes that are based upon the conditions of whether or not someone donates organs, numbnuts...

Japher · May 12, 2003, 14:54

It wouldn't be a ig explosion, just big enough to get everything messy

Why do ppl always want to tax things? Wouldn't it be better to reward than to punish?

Why not give ppl a tax break if they donate their organs instead of taking way from those because they don't want to give away pieces of their body?

What about for people who only have one kidney, or parts that just cannot be donated? Would they get taxed because they ruined their longs by smoking, or liver by drinking?

This is actually really sick.

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 14:55

Ding, four posts to an ad hominem. Fez would've beaten you to the punch -- you're getting soft.

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:56

Wow I'm agreeing with Japher... that shows you how silly and nonsensical your point is loinburger

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:57

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Ding, four posts to an ad hominem. Fez would've beaten you to the punch -- you're getting soft.

actually, 1... where I called u numbnuts... nothing else is ad hominem, but go ahead and change the subject.

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 14:57

I laugh at your opinions, and by doing so I discredit them.

All you're basically arguing is that you should be allowed to take your property with you to the grave. I thought that we'd ended that practice with the fall of the ancient Egyptian empire.

Sava · May 12, 2003, 14:59

I didn't think freedom was such an outdated concept. By all means, I give my organs to the Fuhrer!

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 15:00

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actually, 1... where I called u numbnuts... nothing else is ad hominem, but go ahead and change the subject.

Ah, excuse me for taking issue with your use of ad hominems.

Sava · May 12, 2003, 15:00

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Ah, excuse me for taking issue with your use of ad hominems.

I have no problem with your taking issue of it, just the fabrication...

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 15:02

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I didn't think freedom was such an outdated concept. By all means, I give my organs to the Fuhrer!

This is surreal. Is this really you, Sava, the communist, claiming that it is immoral for the state to tax your property? Is it? Did somebody hijack your Poly account, or are you just a hypocrite?

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 15:03

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I have no problem with your taking issue of it, just the fabrication...

Fabrication? Learn to count. You made four posts between my entry in the thread and your first ad hominem. You're getting slow, that's all -- I remember a time when your first post would have been a rolleyes + ad hominem. You just aren't putting your heart into it anymore.

Japher · May 12, 2003, 15:03

I want to donate my organs to the worms, that is my choice... It should not be dictated (that word always makes me laugh) by some government, they don't own me know, and the don't own me when I am dead.

What gives them the right? oh, yea, nothing!

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 15:05

So you're opposed to estate taxes, Japher?

Sava · May 12, 2003, 15:06

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Ding, four posts to an ad hominem.

If you want to continue along this threadjack because your argument is wrong, that's fine... but don't try to backpeddle. You clearly said I had four ad hominems... and that simply isn't true. I wouldn't even classify "numbnuts" as an ad hominem. It's a general term. I could have said "slick", "slappy", "jerky", "honey", or any other non-descript word. To be honest, I don't know enough about you to form a personal attack.

DinoDoc · May 12, 2003, 15:07

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So you're opposed to estate taxes, Japher?

Do you mind if I take one of your kidneys loin? You only need one anyway.

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 15:07

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You clearly said I had four ad hominems

How do you get this from "four posts to an ad hominem?" Four posts, Sava. Not four ad hominems. Four posts. They're different terms.

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 15:08

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Do you mind if I take one of your kidneys loin? You only need one anyway.

You can have them both once I'm dead, but I'm using both at the moment.

Sava · May 12, 2003, 15:08

Well don't blame me if you don't have a command of the English language.

loinburger · May 12, 2003, 15:10

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Well don't blame me if you don't have a command of the English language.

What you talking about, Willis? I'm not the one who doesn't know the difference between a post and an ad hominem.

BTW, you never did address the fact that you're a hypocrite.

DinoDoc · May 12, 2003, 15:10

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You can have them both once I'm dead, but I'm using both at the moment.

Overly sentimental hogwash! You only need one to live and there are people waiting on transplant lists.

Japher · May 12, 2003, 15:11

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So you're opposed to estate taxes, Japher?

Of course! Forget double taxation, this is triple if not quadrouple taxation. The government just likes to think they can take money anytime it changes hands.

Thank god for trust funds...

By the way, demanding someones physical self is far different from demanding their monetary wealth...