Thread Tools
Old May 16, 2003, 12:45   #121
Rogan Josh
Prince
 
Local Time: 02:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Posts: 366
Quote:
Originally posted by Urban Ranger
These measurement units are all artificial constructions.
Not all. A year has to have 365 and a bit days no matter what units you want to use.
Rogan Josh is offline  
Old May 16, 2003, 17:45   #122
Ben Kenobi
Civilization II Democracy GameCivilization II Succession GamesCivilization II Multiplayer
Emperor
 
Ben Kenobi's Avatar
 
Local Time: 20:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 18,269
Quote:
Nah, I want Kelvin.


I actually cannot understand fahrenheit.

BTW, why do the Americans use a system that orginated in Germany?

You would think they would learn after the FIRST spacecraft that crashes.
__________________
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette and Adam Smith you will be missed
"All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - JRR Tolkein
Get busy living or get busy dying.
Ben Kenobi is offline  
Old May 16, 2003, 18:04   #123
Chemical Ollie
King
 
Chemical Ollie's Avatar
 
Local Time: 03:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hooked on a feeling
Posts: 1,780
I think the second comes from the heart rate. But you have to be extremely fit and rested to have a heart rate of 60 bpm. Perhaps the Sumerian elite soldiers were like that? Or the unit has changed over the millenia.

But I wouldn't complain if they changed hours, minutes and seconds into 10 hours a day and the other sub-units into 10 or 100 parts of that.

Have a nice 10-hour day
__________________
So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in - Supercitizen to stupid students
Lord know, I've made some judgement errors as a mod here. The fact that most of you are still allowed to post here is proof of that. - Rah
Chemical Ollie is offline  
Old May 16, 2003, 18:50   #124
MOBIUS
Emperor
 
Local Time: 11:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Caerdydd, Cymru
Posts: 5,303
I'm happy for the Americans to keep their feet planted firmly in the dark ages - after all, even their own mother country has adopted metric...

No skin off my nose, I can do both either independently or as a convertion from one to the other...

What I do find disturbing is that there seem to be a large number of you americans using 'imperial' (ah, the nostalgia...) who don't have a clue how many pounds there are to a stone - if you're gonna use it, use it properly...

Horse is right about miles and kms though, at least with miles you get a real sense of achievement when you've reeled off a few hundred - not like those namby-pamby kms...
__________________
"People would rather die than think, and most people do." - Bertrand Russell
MOBIUS is offline  
Old May 18, 2003, 03:37   #125
Urban Ranger
NationStatesApolyton Storywriters' GuildNever Ending Stories
Deity
 
Urban Ranger's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 1999
Location: The City State of Noosphere, CPA special envoy
Posts: 14,606
Quote:
Originally posted by Rogan Josh
Not all. A year has to have 365 and a bit days no matter what units you want to use.
Why chose a year? It's only because of agriculture that humans needed to know when to plant crops. So it's all artificial, after all.
__________________
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
Urban Ranger is offline  
Old May 18, 2003, 08:03   #126
C0ckney
King
 
Local Time: 02:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: All Connections That Have Been Made Are Now Dead
Posts: 2,981
i was taught metric, but i still understand imperial much better.

here we use different systems for different things, height, weight and distance are still measured in imperial, but if you buy petrol or large quatities of drink you'll be buying in litres. temperature is measured in degrees C rather than F.

i would hate to switch fully to metric, if someone tells me their height or weight in metric i always ask 'what's that in english?'
__________________
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
C0ckney is offline  
Old May 18, 2003, 08:32   #127
JimmyCracksCorn
Chieftain
 
Local Time: 01:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Posts: 48
Duh. The US is using the metric system. Do you think the White House buys a pound of butter? No, it buys .6kg (or whatever it is) instead. The metric system is the standard system for the US Government, its just not used on food labels and highway/road signs as well as when talking about property (like ft squared and miles squared, acres, etc...) and other stuff like that. Its just the stuff where Imperial works just as well and everybody knows it already so why intentionally screw up everyone when you don't have to?

Remember the US is a big country... it would cost a ton and confuse millions. Why bother?
JimmyCracksCorn is offline  
Old May 18, 2003, 22:57   #128
Odin
DiplomacyNever Ending StoriesApolyton UniversityRise of Nations MultiplayerCiv4 SP Democracy Game
King
 
Odin's Avatar
 
Local Time: 19:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Liberal Socialist Party of Apolyton. Fargo Chapter
Posts: 1,649
The units of time were first used by the Sumerians and are still used because it is a base-60 that can easily be used as parts of a circle (a year is 360 plus 5.24 days). A 24-hour system is quite rational, it can be divided easily into many things, much more that a base-10 time system.
__________________
Nothing to see here, move along: http://selzlab.blogspot.com

The attempt to produce Heaven on Earth often produces Hell. -Karl Popper
Odin is offline  
Old May 18, 2003, 23:00   #129
Urban Ranger
NationStatesApolyton Storywriters' GuildNever Ending Stories
Deity
 
Urban Ranger's Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 1999
Location: The City State of Noosphere, CPA special envoy
Posts: 14,606
Quote:
Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Remember the US is a big country... it would cost a ton and confuse millions. Why bother?
Canada is bigger, and China has more people.
__________________
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
Urban Ranger is offline  
Old May 19, 2003, 20:00   #130
Joseph
King
 
Joseph's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ca. USA
Posts: 1,282
Quote:
Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Canada is bigger, and China has more people.
Yes, but the USA is number 3 in Population and Number 3 in size of Country.
Pop. China, India, and USA.
Size Russia, Canada, USA.
Besides, I have already said no and any more posting on this thread is a waste of time.
Joseph is offline  
Old May 19, 2003, 20:03   #131
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 21:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
BTW, why do the Americans use a system that orginated in Germany?
Well that's obvious isn't it? If you dislike the French, the Germans are your natural ally .
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old May 19, 2003, 20:06   #132
Skanky Burns
Alpha Centauri Democracy GameACDG The Cybernetic ConsciousnessC4DG Team Alpha CentauriansApolytoners Hall of FameACDG3 Spartans
 
Skanky Burns's Avatar
 
Local Time: 12:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Skanky Father
Posts: 16,530
Quote:
Remember the US is a big country... it would cost a ton and confuse millions. Why bother?
Because America trades with the rest of the world, and excluding two other countries, everyone uses metric. So while your millions continue to use that old system, it confuses billions.
__________________
I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
Skanky Burns is offline  
Old May 19, 2003, 20:26   #133
Oerdin
Deity
 
Oerdin's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: In a bamboo forest hiding from Dale.
Posts: 17,436
Other then sending the odd satilite crashing into the atmosphere of other planets what harm does it do us? None at all.
__________________
Christianity is the belief in a cosmic Jewish zombie who can give us eternal life if we symbolically eat his flesh and blood and telepathically tell him that we accept him as our lord and master so he can remove an evil force present in all humanity because a woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from an apple tree.
Oerdin is offline  
Old May 19, 2003, 21:22   #134
Oerdin
Deity
 
Oerdin's Avatar
 
Local Time: 18:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: In a bamboo forest hiding from Dale.
Posts: 17,436
Quote:
Originally posted by MOBIUS
I'm happy for the Americans to keep their feet planted firmly in the dark ages - after all, even their own mother country has adopted metric...
My dad's from Scotland and everytime his family comes to visit us in California they always, always, always talk about stones, pounds, feet, and miles. Canada is metric too but I remember a Canadan girl my friend dated in College and she couldn't even say how tall she was in metric; she'd just say 5'7".
__________________
Christianity is the belief in a cosmic Jewish zombie who can give us eternal life if we symbolically eat his flesh and blood and telepathically tell him that we accept him as our lord and master so he can remove an evil force present in all humanity because a woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from an apple tree.
Oerdin is offline  
Old May 19, 2003, 22:14   #135
Vesayen
King
 
Vesayen's Avatar
 
Local Time: 21:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,251
<-----American who is 100% for s witching to metrics.
Vesayen is offline  
Old May 19, 2003, 23:01   #136
cia
Prince
 
Local Time: 01:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Far away from here
Posts: 612
We have the MEGATONS and we say no!
__________________
Pax Superiore Vi Tellarum
Equal Opportunity Killer: We will kill regardless of race, creed, color,
gender, sexual preference,or age
cia is offline  
Old May 20, 2003, 00:22   #137
Sarxis
Rise of Nations MultiplayerAlpha Centauri PBEMCivilization III MultiplayerCivilization III PBEMCTP2 Source Code ProjectCall to Power II MultiplayerCall to Power MultiplayerCivilization IV: MultiplayerCivilization IV CreatorsGalCiv Apolyton Empire
Emperor
 
Sarxis's Avatar
 
Local Time: 21:31
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 3,361
Why switch? There's no reason to. Besides, variety is the spice of life.
Sarxis is offline  
Old May 20, 2003, 03:01   #138
Chemical Ollie
King
 
Chemical Ollie's Avatar
 
Local Time: 03:31
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hooked on a feeling
Posts: 1,780
Shouldn't that be Megatonnes?

95% of the world population have adapted the metric system. Almost 50% of them have Megatonnes too (China, India, Russia, France etc). And metric tonnes are heavier than short tons...
__________________
So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in - Supercitizen to stupid students
Lord know, I've made some judgement errors as a mod here. The fact that most of you are still allowed to post here is proof of that. - Rah
Chemical Ollie is offline  
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 21:31.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Apolyton Civilization Site | Copyright © The Apolyton Team