Radiohead - I don't get it - Page 2

Az · May 25, 2003, 14:57

Missy Elliot is great, btw.

Immortal Wombat · May 25, 2003, 15:06

Missy Elliot is unlistenable.

Although, in terms of beautiful, meaningful music, Spiritualized are great.

Stefu · May 25, 2003, 15:06

While Snapcase's musical taste doesn't quite jive with mine, in here he's right on. In fact, if we combine it with his recent lionization of White Stripes, he's been right on about music at least twice in a short period of time, which is rather worrisome.

Oh well, at least he doesn't like Tool. So there's at least one thing I still can say he's wrong about.

Drogue · May 25, 2003, 15:08

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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Although, in terms of beautiful, meaningful music, Spiritualized are great.

Immortal Wombat · May 25, 2003, 15:18

Az · May 25, 2003, 15:27

Heathen! Missy Elliot is great to listen.

Asher · May 25, 2003, 15:29

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Originally posted by Stefu
Oh well, at least he doesn't like Tool.

OneFootInTheGrave · May 25, 2003, 15:35

Radiohead

Coldplay

As for me they caught me with their mini LP My Iron Lung, which was between "Creep" and the Bands , the Bands is still my favourite album, and one of the best albums ever. Their music style has changed but the songs still speak volumes about life... for me... how can you put art into words, some understand it and that's enough for us who do.

Where would you want me to start? Certainly Radiohead is not the band which, if you are new to, can sound easy or acceptable.... it takes some listening to get the feel I assume. Thoms whining as you put it, well for me it just kicks my chord... why? SOmehow many things that I see in the world around me or in me click with their music -as for OK Computer - fear... questions... escape? anyway my favourite out of that album is Climbing Up The Walls... "It's always better on the outside"

anyway, I guess Radiohead is not for everyone, maybe many listen just because it is not standard mainstream, but still for us to whom their music speaks - Radiohead

--refreshing--

Buck Birdseed · May 25, 2003, 16:38

I like my music imediate, kinetic, original and raw, ie. everything Radiohead is not. What they did to music was take the quite hard-rockin' alt-rock format, infuse it with pretentious pseudo-intellectual gibberish and ideas, bleed all life out of it and plaster on the most whiny lyrics known to mankind. Like prog rockers a generation before them they tried to turn the visceral, lively, youthful artform that is Rock'n'Roll into pompous, tediously anaemic "music" for desexed people whose idea of excitement is tea with an extra cube of sugar in it, spawning dozens of awful copycat acts (Doves, anyone?) and being instrumental in the process that ruined music in the nineties.

It took years for the mainstream to refocus on the core values of groove, attitude and brilliant pop hooks again.

Az · May 25, 2003, 16:41

Buck

except of that enigmatic last sentence.

OneFootInTheGrave · May 25, 2003, 16:54

Well Buck, pseudo intellectual gibberish for you is beautiful and meaningfull to me - well such is life I guess we all differ in our tastes and understanding

... in the same way MS Elliot doesn't really appeal to me, but what the heck she has an audience of her own, who probably know what appeals to them

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imediate, kinetic, original and raw

:shrugs:

Az · May 25, 2003, 16:56

I liked creep. the rest was... nm.

OneFootInTheGrave · May 25, 2003, 17:03

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Originally posted by Azazel
I liked creep. the rest was... nm.

Well that is their "most like pop" song, but If you ought to go to those musical waters start off with "the Bands" the rest will surely sound to weird.

Az · May 25, 2003, 17:05

I won't start anything.

Look, I realize these guys are experimenting, trying to find a new sound. All I say is that so far, I don't like their new sound.

Asher · May 25, 2003, 17:19

Anyone who likes Missy Elliot is automatically dismissed when it comes to musical taste as far as I'm concerned.

Hell, Buck admits to not even hearing some of the most brilliant albums in recent times. No wonder he doesn't know better.

FrustratedPoet · May 25, 2003, 17:28

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Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
I like my music imediate, kinetic, original and raw, ie. everything Radiohead is not. What they did to music was take the quite hard-rockin' alt-rock format, infuse it with pretentious pseudo-intellectual gibberish and ideas, bleed all life out of it and plaster on the most whiny lyrics known to mankind. Like prog rockers a generation before them they tried to turn the visceral, lively, youthful artform that is Rock'n'Roll into pompous, tediously anaemic "music" for desexed people whose idea of excitement is tea with an extra cube of sugar in it, spawning dozens of awful copycat acts (Doves, anyone?) and being instrumental in the process that ruined music in the nineties.

Holy crap, learn to get an opinion why don't you Buck?

Asher · May 25, 2003, 17:35

The problem is, I think, Buck doesn't know what he likes.

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imediate(sic), kinetic, original and raw

describes The White Stripes perfectly, and AFAIK, he doesn't like them...

Immortal Wombat · May 25, 2003, 18:07

Electric Six, Snappy?

*End Is Forever* · May 25, 2003, 18:11

Asher, Johan is a big fan of the White Stripes.

(For the record, I think they're crap)

Asher · May 25, 2003, 18:13

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Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
Asher, Johan is a big fan of the White Stripes.

Hmmm.

Well I seem to remember from CG that he didn't like the last half of Elephant, but I'm probably mistaken for how much he didn't like it.

If he does like it, yay for consistency.

Except I think Missy Elliot isn't very raw, except for her lyrics which are absolutely raw in a terrible, terrible way.

Buck Birdseed · May 25, 2003, 18:19

I think the second half of Elephant is good, but doesn't match up to the first half which (with the exception of one song) may be one of the finest seven-song sequences in music history.

Asher · May 25, 2003, 18:20

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Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
I think the second half of Elephant is good, but doesn't match up to the first half which (with the exception of one song) may be one of the finest seven-song sequences in music history.

yay!! =)

Imran Siddiqui · May 25, 2003, 19:13

Radiohead:

I don't understand it either. Then again, the Limp Bizkitization of Rock made me leave the genre, first, to Classic Rock, then out of the genre entirely.

Asher · May 25, 2003, 19:21

Heh...that's very silly reasoning, Imran.

There's still lots of great rock bands out there that aren't like Limp Bizkit. Also note that Limp Bizkit has dropped off the face of the earth.

Besides, you moved to country. Jeez.

Imran Siddiqui · May 25, 2003, 19:25

Yeah, I found the light. Country is so much better than the rock scene. And Limp Bizkit hasn't dropped off. I just heard this Linkin Park crap, and it's the same deal! This rap-rock, rock-core, whatever... hate it!! Though that Evanesance band isn't half bad.... though they used to be Jesus freaks...

Sorry, I'll take Alan Jackson and Toby Keith any day.

Sikander · May 25, 2003, 20:24

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Originally posted by Stefu
While Snapcase's musical taste doesn't quite jive with mine.....

I'd like to point out this common errror in english usage, which I see many people make, many of them native speakers. The correct phrase is jibe with, and not jive with. Jibe in this instance means to agree. Jibe here is the least common usage of the term, which was apparantly started in 19th c. North America from uncertain origins.

Jibe (1) an insulting or mocking remark (noun)

Jibe (2) changing course by swinging the sail across a following wind (verb)

Jibe (3) be in accordance, agree (verb)

Sikander · May 25, 2003, 20:35

To the point of the thread: I like Radiohead, though I wouldn't describe them as one of my favorite all-time bands or anything. I am interested in what they do musically however. Like previous posters, one of the reasons I like them (and other prog-rock bands) is that they aren't completely predictable. This means that they are sort of like anti-pop. The good news is that their music remains enjoyable for far longer than most pop music, but it takes longer for most people to "get" it. Anyone who does this is alright in my book, and Radiohead is even better because I like their music as well.

As for lyrics, I never bother with them unless they are readily comprehensible, which is thankfully not the case with so much music. I find that lyrics rarely add to my appreciation of music, but can work the opposite magic, and do so regularly. So I have no idea what sort of meanings the singer / lyricist is trying to give the music. All I know is that in this band his efforts are not bringing the efforts of his bandmates to grief. Lets hear it for undecipherable lyrics!

Sikander · May 25, 2003, 20:36

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, I found the light. Country is so much better than the rock scene. And Limp Bizkit hasn't dropped off. I just heard this Linkin Park crap, and it's the same deal! This rap-rock, rock-core, whatever... hate it!! Though that Evanesance band isn't half bad.... though they used to be Jesus freaks...

Sorry, I'll take Alan Jackson and Toby Keith any day.

Please take them, far away.