May 29, 2003, 11:02
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A very simple question for (native?) English speakers...
If you're very frustrated and finally something comes along that ends your frustration, you could imagine that you would shout "Freedom!".
How do you put this in words properly? Screaming for freedom? Screaming in freedom? Screaming out of freedom?
I hate English prepositions... 
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May 29, 2003, 11:03
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I usually don't do that.
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May 29, 2003, 11:05
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That's a very poorly written question. Can you please rephrase?
The "Freedom" shout as you describe it is freedom from, i.e., freedom from worry, freedom from oppression, etc.
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May 29, 2003, 11:05
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"Screaming out of freedom". Like "crying out of joy". That is, if freedom is a sensation, an emotion. If freedom was a concrete place, like getting out of a prison, you could consider it "screaming in freedom". "Screaming for freedom" would be closer to screaming, well, for freedom.
Out of the options I'd use "out of" myself.
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May 29, 2003, 11:11
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You screamed "Freedom!" Not from it. Not of it. Not out of it.
Screaming for freedom? - Implies you don't have freedom, but want it, and are therefore screaming.
Screaming in freedom? - Doesn't work at all.
Screaming out of freedom? - Doesn't work at all.
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May 29, 2003, 11:13
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Thanks for the quick replies. But never mind, I decided to keep it short: http://apolyton.net/ron 
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May 29, 2003, 11:13
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Yes, it would just be "screaming freedom." No prepositions.
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May 29, 2003, 11:13
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Freedom fries.
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May 29, 2003, 11:14
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Screaming in freedom? - Doesn't work at all.
Screaming out of freedom? - Doesn't work at all.
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Yeah, they do somehow sound... wrong. "Made up".
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May 29, 2003, 11:16
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screaming at freedom
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May 29, 2003, 11:16
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I wasn't too sure what he is asking for: the word to describe the shout, or the preposition to describe how the feeling of "Freedom" was derived.
For starters, I don't think the guy would be screaming. Shouting is a better word, unless he is mindless with rage or something.
If not, then your sentence should be along these lines: "As he plugged the coppers while making his jailbreak, he shouted out 'Freedom!' "
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May 29, 2003, 11:19
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"Sing Out" or "Cry Out" seems like it would fit better than "Screaming." You scream when you're frightened or in pain.
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May 29, 2003, 11:20
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Out of a sense of freedom.
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May 29, 2003, 11:21
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screaming from freedom
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May 29, 2003, 11:22
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Hmm, thanks for the info, JohnT. You leave me wondering what would make a better title: Makes you scream or Makes you shout "freedom!"...
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May 29, 2003, 11:22
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Originally posted by loinburger
You scream when you're frightened or in pain.
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That's not true. People scream when they are angry, for instance...
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May 29, 2003, 11:23
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Originally posted by cyclotron7
Yes, it would just be "screaming freedom." No prepositions.
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That's what I think too...
And then probably crying or shouting out as JohnT and loinburger said (unless he's really going ballistic).
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May 29, 2003, 11:24
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Okay, shouting it is. Thanks, all...
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May 29, 2003, 11:25
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Cry Freedom, like the film etc.
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May 29, 2003, 11:35
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Damn, I don't think I ever edited a news item more often: changed the title 3 times, got into an argument with the news script over which quote-signs I was allowed to use and credited the wrong person for the news tip 
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May 29, 2003, 12:16
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Well, I would yell:
I am FREE!
Though "freedom" equates to being free, you would not yell "freedom," but rather the word "free." Is this what you mean Locutus?
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May 29, 2003, 13:56
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I would say "cried out freedom"
At least that's how I would describe what Mel Gibson does at the end of Braveheart 
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May 29, 2003, 14:08
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Originally posted by paiktis22
Freedom fries.
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May 29, 2003, 16:50
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Originally posted by Wittlich
Well, I would yell:
I am FREE!
Though "freedom" equates to being free, you would not yell "freedom," but rather the word "free." Is this what you mean Locutus?
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I would agree with that.
"Free at last" is a common expression when a burden or commitment is liften.
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May 29, 2003, 19:13
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Exactly BC. 
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May 29, 2003, 19:19
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Well, Mel Gibson obviously isn't that eloquent...
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May 29, 2003, 19:30
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Nope. He's just hilarious!  
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May 29, 2003, 19:36
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Well , he didn't have a forum back then of course
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May 29, 2003, 19:52
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Originally posted by cyclotron7
cyclotron7 quote:
Originally posted by loinburger
You scream when you're frightened or in pain.
That's not true. People scream when they are angry, for instance...
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I have known women to scream in other... shall we say more joyous circumstances ! (Though I've never heard them scream "Freedom")
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