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Old June 10, 2003, 07:26   #1
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V2 Ready To Launch - This Means War!


New map!
New sounds!

DV2 - NOW READY FOR DOWNLOAD!
http://apolyton.net/upload/files/cur...V2II-files.zip

SOUNDS1!
http://apolyton.net/upload/files/cur...II-sounds1.zip

SOUNDS2!
http://apolyton.net/upload/files/cur...II-sounds2.zip

README!
Overview, Units, etc...

My Kamerads and Comrades:
Time to get into uniform! DV2 is finally here! After much beta-messing, My WW2 thing is now done!

Giving you a chance to try various strategies as the Axis, and a chance to thwart them faster as the Allies!

You now have TWO scn files.
A regular one, and one with European names for some cities. Enjoy!
Run whatever one takes your fancy.

Y'all know what to do - make a folder, make a sounds folder in it.
Load it, play it, gimme some feedback!

Thanks in advance, and please use this thread to post any comments, threats, etc.

The heroes!
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The roll of honour!
Iron Chancellor
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And many thanks to all the usual suspects on SL forums!


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Old June 10, 2003, 08:09   #2
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sounds neat ;-)
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Old June 10, 2003, 08:38   #3
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That how a proper WW2 scenario should be like.

That is why the microprose WW2 scenario remains the best of its kind. Although having no new units or techs the f.e Axis player has the option of invading england or not, of breaking the peace with Russia or whatever.

Flexibility of options truly make a scenario civ-like.

IIRC i had proposed something similar for your Dict II scenario(What if scenarios-invasion of Gibraltar and assistance of the Italian fleet in operation sea lion, Capture of Egypt etc..).
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Old June 10, 2003, 08:42   #4
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BTW i take it this scenario will begin around early 1930s?

And what of diplomacy? flexibility of options means that negotiations will be allowed, but that also means that Brits could storm Moscow with Panther tanks.


P.S check your e-mails and PMs curt, i have sent several.
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Old June 10, 2003, 09:11   #5
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Checking those PMs, Pericles!

A pity the CIV2 engine is limited, but it is still a good basis!

I wish I have more tech and unit slots to play with, and bigger event files!

I think the ToT version of Dictator III will begin soon!

PS
The scenario has a Jun 1940 start.
The diplomacy for SP will be off, to prevent the UK demanding those Panthers.

But in an PBEM, thing can be changed...
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Old June 10, 2003, 09:28   #6
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Nice, Curt! I've been starting to make on thoose units that you asked me to.

Could you please get that MSN on?
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Old June 10, 2003, 09:34   #7
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Concerning the following improvements:

Russia – Politbureau (actually, I believe it's spelled "politburo")

Russia – Gulag

Now, the politburo isn't going to be the Courthouse improvement and the Gulag the Police Station, right? Because, this effectively makes these two useless if the Russian government under Stalin is going to be a dictatorship. Under war command, though, the politburo might have some use (assuming there is corruption under war command) but perhaps it could be better applied as an all-around courthouse-style building?
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Me me me! Let me playtest! Thats exactly what I always wished to have!
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Old June 10, 2003, 12:35   #9
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Mr Sharpe, worry ye not!

Stalin's evil empire is under 'war command' government!

Now you can make use of Gulags to throw those rioting citizens into!

Only the minor civ (neutrals/easterns) are fundy govs.
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I want to playtest too!!!
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Old June 10, 2003, 16:21   #11
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@Cifer:
@Figu:

You are more than welcome!
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Old June 10, 2003, 23:49   #12
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Curt, buddy, pal...you wouldn't forget a friend like me, would you?

Can't wait, and if you need any more help, lemme know!
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Old June 11, 2003, 04:50   #13
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@Iron Chancellor: Nice one!

I'll post it today at some point!
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Old June 11, 2003, 05:20   #14
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i want to try this out too
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Old June 11, 2003, 07:42   #15
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@Jim - Sure!

It will be released at midnight UK time!

I have some last minute txt files to change!
But it is looking rather good, when I played today!
The balance is working well.

A quick question for all:
If I want to change the empire/leader name of a civ from the rules.txt,
should I change the city.txt values too?

I am making use of the split empire thing to break the USSR if Moscow is lost...
For the first time, the AI-controlled 3rd Reich captured it in Dec 1943 during my last game.
The faction split and the mongols were created.
I want to make them the anti-stalin 'Mencheviks' or'Democrats'...or something.

This would involve renaming the Sioux and Mongols in rules.txt, how do I do this?

Cheers in advance...
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look in your PM box Curt!
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Old June 11, 2003, 12:25   #17
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Curt this looks pretty interesting but Im wondering why no trade units? Its a good way to force a Battle of the Atlantic (The USA trying to get trade to Britian and Russia and vice versa) by simulating Lend Lease.
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Trade units make technological advancement so much easier. In Curt's prior games, I've had jet fighters in 1940 :P
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I can say that I have made many tests with the tech paradigm,
and I will say that the level of tech research is quite good.

And you wont get jets by 1940. (even though the scenario starts in that year... )
You might get them by 1943, still early enough to make a real impact!

The challenge of DV2 is to pick the most useful weapon for your situation and research it's components, till you get it.

I would love to have more tech-slots to simulate more aspects, but you use what you get in CIV2.

Trade units are a pest.
The AI will build a trillion useless trade trucks for no reason.
This is about strategic war, trade is handled via events.
Wouldn't you rather have the nice I-16 Polikarpov that has taken the place of the trade truck?

Getting those troop carriers to and from Europe/USA will be tough, I can assure you!
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Actually given the choise of a truck or a polikarpov I'd go with the truck as it isn't as dangerous for it's driver
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A truck won't stop the Me109s!
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when it will be downloadable
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Yeah, when will it be downloadable?

PS: look into your pm box!!!
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Come and get it!

DL available now!
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To give a taste of the madness, I have made a few screenshots...

All your base are belong to us!
You might be waiting a while till you see this!


Casablanca gets heavy!
Tiger division and Soviets meet in Africa!


Midway Madness!
Don't even go there!


Winter Clash!
Bitter foes battle in the hostile North!


Still think London will be a pushover?


Defenders of Oz!
Commonwealth heroes prepare to meet the Emperor's sons!
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hmm.. where is the .scn file???!??
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Yeah! I will playtest as much as I can!
Dont have to much time at the moment cause I am working for three months 9 hours a day - but if I find time for Civ2 I know what scen I will play.

Youre a Civ2 - Scenario God!

Its time to ... arty:
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Oops!

Damned winzip!

Fixed it now!
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Oops!

Damned winzip!

Fixed it now!

???? where is the link?

Edit: I found it!
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Ok... just took a tiny little look at it yet.
First: Why does the Soviet Union declare war on me if I attack Belgrad? Wasnt it just the trigger for the operation Barbarossa in the "normal" dictator version or is there a historical background?
Second... ... the voice of the Waffen SS Commandant sounds a little strange... (you know - I am German) perhaps if you would like, I could send you an original selfmade sound. You just would have to tell me if you have a special wish for the sound. The thing is that the Waffen SS were stormtroopers. But the Commandant says: "unter Beschuss - wir brauchen Hilfe!" Thats like: "we are under (?) fire (someone shoots at you ) - we need help. But thats perhaps kind of to defending imho. What about "Sturmtruppen Angriff!" or something else. Perhaps you know some original phrases - I dont know...

Ok, thats my first little remark!
oh... +++ Operation Seelöwe!

edit: Berlin has a higher production then Cologne... not that much, but a little

Bye

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