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Old June 23, 2003, 21:02   #31
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Suffice to say fatness seems to be the way of the world now.
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Old June 23, 2003, 21:04   #32
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Evil Knevil, are you serious? There are tons of famous fat people. Besides, if someone doesn't want to marry me because I carry some extra pounds, then it's not on very strong base, is it?

I must add, that I have one buddy who is quite fat. Not very fat, but let's say 30-40 pounds too much. And I'm telling you he pulls hot chicks all the time. I don't know how he does it, but they love his gut because it's soft, and that he has the best hug in the world because he's like gentle bear.

Besides, I like hot women like everyone else. At midsummers party, there was this girl who I have known for few years, but never really got to know her. She's super hot and I always dreamed about her, but when she opened her mouth and we talked.. oh man.. she's just horrible. And I've known several bigger girls that I'd date with pleasure. So.. people who are that shallow, then I'm not even interested. Of course, hot chick with nice thoughts of her own and chemistry... bada bing!
Bigger girls are better to wrestle, because they have more power and are more heavy, and they don't hurt themselves when I make a body suplex in the backyard.

I lost my clue what I'm talking about here, or what the thread was about, all I'm saying being fat is not a crime. Only bad thing about it is health problems. There are so many people out there who make fat peoples lives miserable with their judgements. I want to wrestle these people too. First round KO!
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I must add, that I have one buddy who is quite fat. Not very fat, but let's say 30-40 pounds too much. And I'm telling you he pulls hot chicks all the time. I don't know how he does it, but they love his gut because it's soft, and that he has the best hug in the world because he's like gentle bear.
I must have a vacation in Finland.
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uhh does this friend of yours have unusually large feet?
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Of course I'm not being serious, and being fat is not a crime. I'm just jesting, everybody needs to chill.
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Large feet? You mean the guy? Not really. Not unusually.
He's a former athlete, so he's quite strong, but he has his stomach sticking out quite much, but it seems to work for him. He has troubles making the first move, since some girls usually avoid him because he is not so cut, but once he gets some conversation going on, it's only a matter of time when they fall in love with him. He's a big personality and there's a big warmness glowing from him.

edit: He's a funny case actually. As I said he's a former athlete and you can see that he has worked out a lot, but not in recent years. So he started working out again and started losing that gut, but then he stopped and he said that he couldn't pull women anymore and had to get that gut back .
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I also wonder where these numbers come from. In the U.S, we supposedly have such a huge problem. However, here in NYC at least, I see relatively few obese people. It's hard to be THAT fat when you walk everywhere.

Still, when I go to Middle America, I do see a lot more overweight people. I'm willing to bet a large percentage of America's overweight people are concentrated in the South, too.
In the midwest as well, and many minority populations have higher obesity rates than the white population. It's hard to hide from unless you live in a rich area full of people who moved there from somewhere else, like Manhattan or Boulder Co.
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Besides, most fat people can lose the extra if they really want to and use the right methods (traditional, not magic pills). But shallow and stupid people can't stop being shadow and stupid. So who is the loser?
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I wonder where the line between "normal weight" and "overweight" is drawn in the study. I've heard of people who have been determined overweight by a doctor, only because they weigh too much if compared to their height, i.e. the natural build or the muscularity of the person is completely ignored. Body fat percentage would be a more accurate measurement of obesity than the silly Body Mass Index.
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I don't think the average Greek is fat, it's the combined weight of all the body hair that's a problem.
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Greeks are the fattest people in Europe
Fatter then Germans?!

Seriously, our modern lifestyle is antitheticial to the population as a whole staying fit. We'd need to return to the old days of physical labor and less rich foods.
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You guys do realize that to be obese, medically speaking, is to be 20% above your ideal body weight, don't you?

For Example:

Somebody that for their height and bone structure should be 180 lbs. If they weigh 216 lbs. they are considered obese.

Even though they don't look extremely fat, they are, in fact obese.

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for me it's a matter of personal preference.

I don't get any more women now than when I weighed 33 pounds more.

but I it feels so good to be agile again, and feel like I did when I was in high school. Because I was thin in high school, and it feels good to get that feeling back.

So it has nothing to do with shallow people. Being fat just isn't healthy.
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DIss, I didn't mean to say you are shallow. Just in general..
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Well, I can't find the report on the IOTF web site (it was painfully slow and non-intuitive so I've might have missed it), but at least I found this table from last November: http://www.iotf.org/media/obesitytable.htm

According to it, people are considered overweight if their BMI is over 25.
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no I realize you weren't calling me shallow.

In fact I took your post to mean women. As most of us here are male posters have male friends.
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According to it, people are considered overweight if their BMI is over 25.
Ah, thanks for the info.

So, my bodybuilder schoolmate is overtly obese then? Like I said, the BMI is ridiculous. Also, mine is 25.8 (was 32.7 a year ago) which would mean that I am only a bit overweight, but I definitely need to get lower than what my 25 weight would be.
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I also wonder where these numbers come from. In the U.S, we supposedly have such a huge problem. However, here in NYC at least, I see relatively few obese people. It's hard to be THAT fat when you walk everywhere.

Still, when I go to Middle America, I do see a lot more overweight people. I'm willing to bet a large percentage of America's overweight people are concentrated in the South, too.
Up here the fatties congregate in the Maritimes ('specially those slobs in Newfieland...)

IIRC, however, my home province still has a firm grip on the highest smoking rate and the lowest exercise rate in Canada...

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IIRC, however, my home province still has a firm grip on the highest smoking rate and the lowest exercise rate in Canada...
You're saying that the French are lazy and like to smoke? I have a hard time believing that.

BTW, where's Paiktis? I figured he would've been all over this thread by now, claiming that obesity was invented in Greece or something.
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You can crack jokes about fat people, but associating fatness with any single nationality is now obviously false and should be avoided. Not that I really care.
1/3 of Europe is fat.
2/3 of America is fat.

One is under fifty percent, one is over. Please name the country with a 50+ percent fat population

Though Europe is showing a disturbing trend.....In Soviet Russia, hunger owns you!!!! Return to the motherland......
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Greece? Germany? The United Kingdom? Why don't you read the article before you troll?
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We could do a a Counter approach to this.
We spend too much Time in the Net and yet we weight:

186cm /53kg
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BMI is a stupid measurement.

me = 200cm and 92kg

According to the "normal" figures my BMI for most of my adult life has been barely above that of a starving african refugee. Stupid measurement.
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You're the one for me, fatty,
You're the one I really, really love.
And I will stay,
Promise you'll say if I'm in your way.
You're the one for me, fatty,
You're the one I really, really love.
And I will stay,
Promise you'll say if I'm ever in your way.
Ah-hey.
All over Battersea,
Some hope and some despair.
All over Battersea,
Some hope and some despair.
You're the one for me, fatty,
You're the one I really, really love.
And I will stay,
Promise you'll say if I'm in your way.
You're the one for me, fatty,
You're the one I really, really love.
And I will stay,
Promise you'll say if I'm ever in your way.
Ah-hey.
All over Battersea,
Some hope and some despair.
All over Battersea,
Some hope and some despair.
You're the one for me, fatty,
You're the one I really, really love.
And I will stay,
Promise you'll say if I'm in your way.
You're the one for me fatty,
You're the one for me-a-hey . . .
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Fattest, heaviest smokers, heaviest drinkers and still live longer than all other europeans.
explain that.
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BTW Americans are still fat. Ain't no way around it...
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Re: Greeks are the fattest people in Europe...
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You damn Euros. You claim that you hate America,
claim?

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come again?

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You couldn't even let us keep the distinction as the "fat country."
you'll always be thebastard country

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ah ah ah ah aaaah illuuuusion

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Only korean tourists actually eat in them.

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Er... Actually its the Scots who drink the most, Paiktis.

You Greeks tend to have mezedes (sp?) with your drink.

Scots are the worst binge drinkers in the world, apparently. Something to do with our lack of anything to do, along with an incrediably suicidal male culture.

Average male night out= 8 pints, 3-4 whiskys and a couple of randoms (vodka, JD.....)

Not good, makes for a fatty liver, not a just a fatty, greek style gut
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We dont have much to do either. Its just that we prefer todrink that shaken cold coffee? (frape') for hours at cefeterias instead of drinking alcohol. although for a period of time we were actually the largest consumer of scotsch whiskey per head in europe.
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