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Old June 26, 2003, 23:16   #1
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Thurmond's dead
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=512&ncid=716

My hopes for the Dole-Thurmond ticket are forever dashed.
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Old June 26, 2003, 23:18   #2
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Was he still holding office? If so then the dems now have a +2 seat advantage.
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First, no he wasn't still in office.

Second, even if he were, the Dems would still be down, as the Senate is 52-48
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Can't say that I'm sorry about it... but I pay my respects.
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And I beat monkspider.
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Wow, by less than a minute! This has to be a record.
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DD's right... he's been dead for nearly 20 years.
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First, no he wasn't still in office.

Second, even if he were, the Dems would still be down, as the Senate is 52-48
Last I heard the senate was 50-49 with one independent. I guess they lost seats in the last election.

The upside to the Republicans haveing both houses and the executive is that there will be no one else to blame for the ****ing mess they make of the country.
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As I said in my ill-fated thread, rest in peace, Strom.
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bullsh1t... I'd dance on his grave if I ever get a chance. What's mean is the racist policies he advocated. And if I were a betting man, I'd bet that he played a part in at least one lynching in his life. May he burn in hell.
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I was totally bamboozled by the name. NEVER heard of Thurmond before now.

If we had an elected politician in office at that age he would be seen as a dramatic failure. Elected pols generally get "booted" upstairs to the House of Lords (Senate equivalent, kind of, in a real unelected sense).

100 and still in office? HOW?

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Thurmond thoroughly repudiated his racist stances, and I have to respect his career as a lawmaker representing his state and his impact on American politics. He was, by all accounts, the greatest gentleman in the Senate.

Don't confuse him with Jesse Helms.
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South Carolina = Stupid People
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Don't let your dislike for his political views (which I generally share) color your thoughts for him as a person. Your accusation of lynching is unwarranted and unsubstantiated. Even most racist white Southerners never participated in lynchings.
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hahah Sorry Vel, you should know by now how my stupid stereotypes go: they do not represent 100% of people... never ALWAYS or NEVER...

If it makes you feel better, I'll revise. The majority of South Carolina voters = stupid people.
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You've said what you have to say now, Sava. Dismissed.
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Sava, as a Republican and a Human Being I am disgusted that you're dancing about his death!









You need to wait until you're sure he's dead. Drive a stake through his heart, chop off his head, and stuff his mouth with holy wafers.
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I didn't accuse, I said it's likely he did. There's a difference.

I'm surprised to see you defending that piece of human trash, Boris. If Strom had his way, you'd probably be smoldering in a pit with other homosexual people.
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I'm surprised to see you defending that piece of human trash, Boris. If Strom had his way, you'd probably be smoldering in a pit with other homosexual people.
Another unwarranted accusation against him.

I've already stated my point of view, so have you, so that should be that.
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in a way, i'm sad to see him go.

i was sad that he left office too. had he stayed a few more years, his age would have matched the congress number.
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I agree with Boris, not cool Sav. He certainly had his flaws, but he deserves understanding and forgiveness just as any other.
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Unwarranted my ass... just look at his voting record for pete's sake!

Here's at least one black man whose life was put to an end by Strom Thurmond.
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This man's basic crime was that he refused to work on a Saturday when the white plantation owner, William Walker, demanded his presence. Boss Walker, enraged by Osborne's refusal, stormed over to his shack carrying his .32-calibre pistol and the club with which he regularly beat his tenants. Osborne was sleeping and woke to find Boss Walker standing over him with a pistol. He reached for his own shotgun and fired, killing Walker.

Even in the south and even in the 1940s, Osborne was entitled to be tried by a jury of his peers and to rely on his right to self-defence. The Supreme Court had ruled just a year before the trial that the exclusion of blacks from juries was unconstitutional. Yet Thurmond allowed an all-white jury to try Osborne. He failed in his summing up to mention the right to self-defence. And when the jury duly found Osborne guilty, he sentenced him to death.
I urge you to read "'Ol' Strom: An Unauthorized Biography of Strom Thurmond'" by Jack Bass and Marilyn W. Thompson before you embarass yourself any more with support for that flaming racist.
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If were going to tar and feather people for what they did decades ago, where's your vitriol over the fact Byrd is still in office?
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