June 29, 2003, 07:46
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Biology is fine if you are doing the decent stuff, none of that counting daisies crap  My biology teacher was the same. I was going to go into the sciences but then I lost my direction and was aimless again until I met Mr Ford, a science teacher and my biology teacher at A-Level and hence I am in the biological sciences now, and although the field I am in is fascinating, don't have any illusions about research...it ain't glamorous, it ain't well paid and there is a lot of crap you have to contend with. The only way to find out really is to go there...
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June 29, 2003, 07:51
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...things never quite turn out as you expect. I have always done what I thought was the right thing for me and it made me utterly miserable so think hard. You don't have to go down that research path at the end of the day because you think it is the right thing to do. You do have a choice and this choice will confront you later on in life...
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June 29, 2003, 09:27
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What is your graduation project on?
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I'm creating an automatic forum moderator. 
I have rather ambitious plans, but so far I just keep on realising I don't know nearly enough to get where I want, so I want to read more and more... But reading can be quite boring, and all those formulas make my head spin.
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June 29, 2003, 09:43
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I'm about to enter my final year doing a BSc in microbiology (biotechnology), having almost finished a year in industrial placement. I had wanted to take evolutionary biology as well, but none of the unis I wanted to go to offered it. After I'm done I may do further studies, but I expect to go into a job.
Ideally after graduation I'd like to get one of those £21-an-hour temping jobs that I see in my boss's biomedical sciences magazine for most of the next year, until my partner finishes her course at university, but if Mr. Harrison is only on £6.40 an hour I shant hold my breath
Also, a B.A. in biotechnology? That makes about as much sense as my girlfriend's BSc in European Studies and German!
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June 29, 2003, 10:07
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Yes Gibsie, I dunno whether it has just been me being unlucky, or my friends being lucky, but the world out there is not as rosy as it is made out to be by government cronies, and there aren't the opportunities and jobs around that you'd expect.
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June 29, 2003, 10:09
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Ba is the stupides thing ever invented. MA is fine, it's like a diploma, but nothing beats a true M.A. that is Magister Artium, a lot better than that anglo saxon Master of Arts crap, despite the 2 meaning the same 
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June 29, 2003, 10:09
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A friend who graduated in genetics from Imperial went to work at a computer company, and a friend's biotechnology-graduate boyfriend is a computer programmer. Maybe that's an omen.
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June 29, 2003, 10:14
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It's a very strong omen and demonstrates my point. Despite the government going on about it's need for science graduates, you'll find the jobs in science are crap, poorly paid and few and far between...so people branch out. At first I thought it was a shame that some great minds were leaving science and research, now I realise it is a symptom of the terrible shape of the science sector in this country...
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June 29, 2003, 10:16
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This week in Apolyton Call-in: what do you do when your life goes down the crapper?
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June 29, 2003, 10:19
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well you could always retrain PH, if there's one thing the country needs it's more lawyers
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June 29, 2003, 10:25
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Vagabond: it's a combination of both. Thing is, If I didn't go that way, I'd go to do a deskjob in the army, which is basically ****ing off all day ( It's VERY overstaffed ). If I'd go to be enlisted in the army, I'd rather be a grunt, but since I am an only child, my parents get to have a say in that. My father told me he wouldn't mind, but then he'd have to divorce mum.  .
Btw, just finished my final in Calc 2. I'll pass, but with no flying colours. But that doesn't matter. Calc 2 is hardly the course to try to raise your average in.
Did I mention that I hate those annoying 14 year old kids that run around the university, taking Calc 2, and stuff like that? 
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June 29, 2003, 10:26
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in fact my thread is just a blatant spinn-off of this one... needed the attention last night
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June 29, 2003, 10:45
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well you could always retrain PH, if there's one thing the country needs it's more lawyers
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I'd sooner claw my eyes out...
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June 29, 2003, 10:47
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On the agenda: Rebuild/Resurrect
On the agenda: Rebuild/Resurrect
I am an undergrad at the University of Chicago, the same school that GePap, Sagan, Ashcroft, Vonnegut, and the Chicago boys that Pinochet loved.
Or I was, anyway.
From the middle of winter quarter until three weeks before the end of spring quarter, everything that I had built up over the years for my future life collapsed under the ravages of depression; exacerbated by my inability to speak with others about personal matters, it ended as a near total disaster.
Now I have to rebuild. I did manage to obtain semi-favorable terms: spring quarter was removed from the records; the debt that I'd run up (the depression had left me unable to attend work or class, hell, even leave the dorm room) would be covered by mom (I naturally have to pay her back, but there's a lot less interest involved); and therapy.
When I return, I plan on majoring on Linguistics.
I don't know where I'll go after that. Maybe work for the UN or the State Department, see the world; I want to strike off on my own and live for a few years in Seoul, Tokyo, and Berlin, before returning to the States.
I haven't the foggiest idea about a career, though. I don't know why I typed all of this out, either.
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June 29, 2003, 10:50
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The course of life is never smooth Q...
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June 29, 2003, 10:58
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I shall be joining a gym tomorrow. It's on my way home from work so will be easy to persuade myself to go twice a week. Maybe more..
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June 29, 2003, 11:53
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hmmm..... Q, I certainly hope that depression had nothing to do with uchicago itself
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June 29, 2003, 12:18
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Bloody hell. Reading about all these degrees and universities makes me think i could of done more with my life! Im a first year apprentice working in my local shipyard! And the place might close down soon!
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June 29, 2003, 13:35
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The only Biology BSc MSUM offers is Life Science Teaching. 
I don't care about pay, I care about discovery of new things, new species, new genes, exotic ways of life (archaebacteria ), etc. Of the biologists I would like to meet , #1 would be Carl Woese, who discovered the Archaebacteria in the 70's. #2 would be Lynn Margulis. She hypothosized that Mitochondria and Chloroplasts were the desendents of symbiotic bacteria, lo and behold, she was right. The closest relative of mitochondria is the bacterium that causes TYPHOID FEVER! 
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June 29, 2003, 13:48
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Bloody hell. Reading about all these degrees and universities makes me think i could of done more with my life! Im a first year apprentice working in my local shipyard! And the place might close down soon!
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I bet it must be just like on 'Howard's Way' 
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June 29, 2003, 14:01
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Where my life is at: Finishing up my 5th year in college
Where its heading: long awaited graduation 
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June 29, 2003, 15:36
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Originally posted by Azazel
I am a Chemistry student in Israel's best technological university, finishing my 1st year.
When I graduate, I'll go straight to Officers' course, and become a 2nd Leutenant. my next 6 years will be in the army, 3 of which I'll spend on a Conscript's paycheck, despite being an officer. This is in return for the Army paying my education fees, but It will be possible to get an M.Sc. in Chemistry.
When I am out of the army, in the tender age of 27  , I'll probably try to get a job in the industry, or even better, in the Academia. I hope that there will be budget cuts in Defence, so they'll let me out earlier.
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the only way to get cuts is when there is going to be peace , ......
and that just aint going to happen in the near future , ...... 
have a nice day
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June 29, 2003, 15:39
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On the contrary. If there will be peace, the economy will pick up, so less cuts would have to be made on R&D, so there are higher chances that I'll stay.
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June 29, 2003, 15:44
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On the contrary. If there will be peace, the economy will pick up, so less cuts would have to be made on R&D, so there are higher chances that I'll stay.
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hi ,
so they are going to put you in an R&D job , well good luck , ....
you gona love it either way , .....
have a nice day
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June 29, 2003, 15:46
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I should've been more descriptive in my post. There won't be cuts on ballscratching, my job in the army.
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June 29, 2003, 15:52
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Have just finished the second term in my MSc in Computer Science conversion course at Cambridge's "other" university APU. One more semester to go. With my background (BSc Molecular Biology, 2 yrs of a PhD in Immunology/Virology) and the current thing I can see myself ending up somewhere around here in cambridge doing the whole bioinformatics thing. What can I say I like Cambridge, it is a stimulating city, not too big and got a good river to row on.
Personally, no girlfriend but haven't looked for a serious relationship for months. The occasional girl shows up on the scene, leaves again the week after, the usual uni thing. Somehow, now that I am slightly older (24) these things seem to come an awful lot easier to me now than when I was horny 18 yr old, so I am taking full advantage of all the girls that are now leaving the blokes of their age standing for the guy who is 5 years older then them. Payback...
Rowing a lot, and hopefully, with a lot of work over the summer and the start of next academic year, can get my times to get into consideration for the Dutch national squad. Would just love to row in Athens in 2004, but it is unlikely 
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What fun is that? Why all that hard, exhausting work? Where does it get you? What is the good of it? It is one of the strange ironies of life that those who work the hardest, who subject themselves to the strictest discipline, who give up certain pleasurable things in order to achieve a goal, are the happiest. Brutus Hamilton
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June 29, 2003, 15:53
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I should've been more descriptive in my post. There won't be cuts on ballscratching, my job in the army.
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hi ,
 , write a letter to the MOD , if you have a good new and other cause to spend the money on , ......
have a nice day
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June 29, 2003, 16:10
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There IS a chance I might be doing something interesting. But it's small, so I'd rather not talk about it.
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June 29, 2003, 16:19
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Originally posted by Azazel
There IS a chance I might be doing something interesting. But it's small, so I'd rather not talk about it.
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hi ,
most things tend to be intresting , its just a way you look at them , ..... sometimes you wonder and find things not to be intresting at all , but later you do , .....
dont worry a lot in advance , ......
have a nice day
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June 29, 2003, 16:22
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Working at a Fuel Dump....... "WOW THIS IS SO INTERESTING  "
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