Japanese politician tells Kindergarten Association pack rapists are "close to normal"

Alexander's Horse · June 28, 2003, 02:21

Why tell "the kindergarten" association that?

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Outcry as MP links gang rape to virility
By Shane Green, Herald Correspondent in Tokyo and agencies
June 28 2003

Japan has been appalled by the comments of a senior ruling party politician that gang rapists were "virile" and "close to normal".

Seiichi Ota, a former cabinet minister and member of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, made the comments at a forum on Japan's declining birthrate, held by the national kindergarten association.

There was an immediate outcry over the politician's comments, with the opposition Social Democratic Party describing them as "atrocious".

Mr Ota's comments were made in a debate on Japan's declining birthrate, in the southern city of Kagoshima. The former prime minister Yoshiro Mori also attended.

The Japanese news agency Kyodo reported that Mr Ota, 57, said the fall in the birthrate was because of the lack of courage among Japanese men to marry.

The moderator of the debate then made a perplexing reference to a notorious case of alleged gang rape earlier this month, where five students from prestigious universities were arrested for gang raping a female student.

In an equally bizarre comment, the moderator reportedly asked if men should gang rape "if they don't have the courage to make a marriage proposal".

"Gang rape shows the people who do it are still virile, and that is okay," Mr Ota said. "I think that might make them close to normal.

"I know that I would be criticised for saying these sorts of things."

When the forum finished, Mr Ota, a former academic, tried to explain his comments, telling reporters he had planned to say that rape was a serious crime and should be severely punished.

The Prime Minister, Junichiro Koizumi, joined the criticism.

"It is natural that he be criticised. Rape is an unforgivable, contemptible act. It's different from whether one is vigorous or not," Mr Koizumi told reporters.

Mr Ota was also reprimanded by the LDP secretary-general, Taku Yamasaki, and apologised for his remarks.

"I think the fact that such comments were reported made victims ... and many women feel unpleasant, so I want to reconsider and express my apologies," he told reporters.

Yasuyuki Takai, vice-chairman of the Japan Federation of Bar Association's committee on victim support, said he thought Mr Ota's comments showed that Japanese society was too accepting of rape, which often goes unreported.

*shakes head*

Cruddy · June 28, 2003, 02:30

I see... a politician so keen to score a point in debate that he hasn't a clue where the argument has gone.

How did he get to be a politician? Was he baptized one or something?

monolith94 · June 28, 2003, 02:34

"the lack of courage among Japanese men to marry"

That's very interesting. They fear marriage, I fear always remaining single... Hmmmm...

Spiffor · June 28, 2003, 05:49

If you look at Japanese porn, rape sure does look normal in the Japanese society... I'm surprised it raised criticisms : I was sure Japanese women enjoyed being whipped, torture, humiliated, having group sex, and being raped from time to time. At least, Japanese porn has told me so !
Maybe this guy thought he would get many votes by saying that ?

Monolith:
No fear. You are quite cute and you are interesting (at least on the 'Net). You'll have no trouble finding a woman the day you'll really look for it. But indeed, you'll have to really look for it.

Nubclear · June 28, 2003, 06:00

They aren't RAPISTS....

They are simply SEXUAL DEVIANTS.

Get it right

MRT144 · June 28, 2003, 06:01

as spiffor said, this doesnt seem like any outrage would be raised considering the state of japanese "eroticism".

spiffor, hes also a mac user. minus points for lith.

Spiffor · June 28, 2003, 06:03

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Originally posted by MRT144
spiffor, hes also a mac user. minus points for lith.

Right, I didn't think of that. He's doomed

Urban Ranger · June 28, 2003, 07:20

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Originally posted by Spiffor
If you look at Japanese porn, rape sure does look normal in the Japanese society... I'm surprised it raised criticisms : I was sure Japanese women enjoyed being whipped, torture, humiliated, having group sex, and being raped from time to time. At least, Japanese porn has told me so !

You watch that stuff, Spiffor?

*Looks around*

I think you need a girlfriend.

Starchild · June 28, 2003, 08:09

Japanese women also enjoy sex with tentacled alien gods! I've seen the pictures!

Spiffor · June 28, 2003, 09:46

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You watch that stuff, Spiffor?

Past tense.

Boris Godunov · June 28, 2003, 09:57

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Originally posted by Spiffor
If you look at Japanese porn, rape sure does look normal in the Japanese society... I'm surprised it raised criticisms : I was sure Japanese women enjoyed being whipped, torture, humiliated, having group sex, and being raped from time to time. At least, Japanese porn has told me so !
.

The more repressed a society is about sex, the more outlandish and bizarre their pornography and secret sex lives seem to be.

Urban Ranger · June 28, 2003, 11:44

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Originally posted by Spiffor
Past tense.

You still need a girlfriend

Spiffor · June 28, 2003, 11:50

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You still need a girlfriend

Erm, I have one. Now if you mean that I need an extra one, you're worrying me

monolith94 · June 28, 2003, 11:50

Hahaha, I'll have you know that 50% of the cutest girls I know, and the hottest girl I know personally, use macs... But thanks for the compliment anyway, Spiff - time to er, not look a gift horse in the mouth...

Urban Ranger · June 28, 2003, 11:59

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Originally posted by Spiffor
Erm, I have one. Now if you mean that I need an extra one, you're worrying me

Nope. Won't do such a thing.

Death to two-timers!

Az · June 28, 2003, 12:01

She's still typing....

*whistles*

Urban Ranger · June 28, 2003, 12:16

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Originally posted by Azazel
She's still typing....

*whistles*

No, no, it's not my darling SO, it's just me. I honestly detests two-timers. That's the truth.

P.S. Aren't you supposed to be studying?

Az · June 28, 2003, 12:22

I am. the other window is math.

Urban Ranger · June 28, 2003, 12:26

Calc? Can't be that bad for the first term.

I also have an accounting final tomorrow.

Boris Godunov · June 28, 2003, 12:56

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Nope. Won't do such a thing.

Death to two-timers!

I thought he meant polygamy!

Q Classic · June 28, 2003, 23:03

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The more repressed a society is about sex, the more outlandish and bizarre their pornography and secret sex lives seem to be.

actually, i think it has more to do with being a former axis power. japan, germany... italy might be the exception, but that's cause it switched sides.

MRT144 · June 28, 2003, 23:34

Q cubed is correct. germans are foul when it comes to porn. the axis of porn.

Sava · June 28, 2003, 23:36

Japan was messed up from the get-go... after WW2, American occupation only screwed them up even more.

Az · June 29, 2003, 00:40

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Calc? Can't be that bad for the first term.

I also have an accounting final tomorrow.

yep. Calc. Gauss, Green, they're all my friends now. Blech. Calc test, in 5 hours. I am going to fail.

Dis · June 29, 2003, 04:08

first bukkake, and now this

I wonder about the Japanese. I truelly do.

Was it this way during their military height in ww2? I'm not sure.

Urban Ranger · June 29, 2003, 04:43

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Originally posted by Azazel
yep. Calc. Gauss, Green, they're all my friends now. Blech. Calc test, in 5 hours. I am going to fail.

Can't be that bad. You can also hope the curve can save your behind.

Dis · June 29, 2003, 04:45

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Originally posted by Boris Godunov

The more repressed a society is about sex, the more outlandish and bizarre their pornography and secret sex lives seem to be.

I believe you are right about this. This may be the only time I agree with you, so savour the moment.

Just compare the U.S. to Europe for a good example. And then compare Japan to the U.S.

I can't imagine how ****ed up the Amish are

edit: the only exception may be germany. I have seen some german porn that was very rough- on the woman. At least I was think it was german. All those blonde European people look alike

Ecthy · June 29, 2003, 05:11

US porn isn't rough on the lady, then?

MRT144 · June 29, 2003, 05:37

ecthelion...nothing compares to GGG

Ecthy · June 29, 2003, 05:40

GGG doesn't exist.