What does it mean?

Pekka · July 5, 2003, 04:34

Here you can post things you've always wanted to know, but were too embarrased to ask.

Mine are mostly about english language and sayings:

What does catch 22 mean? I know it's catch but what does the 22 mean and is their a story behind this? What kind of catch is it, when it's catch 22?

Secondly, what does Apolyton mean?

Tack så mycket.

Nubclear · July 5, 2003, 04:37

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What does catch 22 mean? I know it's catch but what does the 22 mean and is their a story behind this? What kind of catch is it, when it's catch 22?

My depression makes my Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder worse. My OCD makes my depression worse.

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Secondly, what does Apolyton mean?

Ultimate.

Hmm:

Umm.....Why is Finland called Finland? Why not Legland? Or Rusland?

Cruddy · July 5, 2003, 04:37

Catch 22 is a book, by Joseph Heller. It's kind of a classic dilemma story.

Bomber pilot in WW2 wants to claim he's insane, too scared to fly.

The system says that if he wasn't too insane to fly, then he'd be insane and wouldn't be allowed to fly. But because he's scared of flying missions, that's normal so he isn't insane.

Catch 22. Good movie and a very funny/tragic book.

As for Apolyton, I don't know.

Hueij · July 5, 2003, 04:37

Read the book... Or see the movie, but the book is better.

Drake Tungsten · July 5, 2003, 04:39

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Catch 22 is an all time classic by Joseph Heller who in his sardonic sense of humour tell the story of Captain John Yossarian, stationed at an airstrip on a Mediterranean island in World War II, and portrays his desperate attempts to stay alive. The novel was first published in 1961 and has sold millions of copies since then.

The catch in 'Catch 22' involves an Air Force regulation which considers a man as insane if he willingly continues to fly dangerous combat missions. To be relieved from the dangerous combat duty, one has to make a formal request. But if one make the necessary request the very act of making the request proves that he is sane and therefore ineligible to be relieved.

The term catch-22 thereafter entered the English language with the meaning " a frustrating situation in which one is trapped by contradictory regulations or conditions." and later developed several additional senses. In 1994 Heller published a sequel entitled Closing Time, which details the current lives of the characters established in Catch-22.

http://www.lnl.net/pbc/books/fn00003.html

Pekka · July 5, 2003, 04:39

Cruddy, wow, so there was a good story behind this. Thanks for educating me today

Thanks for the link Drake!

Tass, I don't know.. I guess because it's land of Finns.. Finland. It's Suomi in our language, so I guess that's what matters, and I'm embarrased to admit, I have no idea where it comes from

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Skanky Burns · July 5, 2003, 04:41

I loved the first half of the book.

Drake Tungsten · July 5, 2003, 04:42

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Thanks for the link Drake!

You're welcome.

Pekka · July 5, 2003, 04:45

Actually the story sounds very interesting, I might get the book and read it. Catch 22.. I like it, good word. From now on I shall use this everytime I get the opportunity

Just to make it clear, you can ask anything you want, something you think most people know but somehow you have missed it and feel stupid.

Urban Ranger · July 5, 2003, 04:46

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Umm.....Why is Finland called Finland? Why not Legland? Or Rusland?

No, no, no. Legoland.

Cruddy · July 5, 2003, 04:53

Very good link Drake.

For those who are interested in Closing Time, the sequel to Catch22, I read it recently... it's a good book, but it's not in the same league. Similar sort of black humour though - all based in the US this time.

OK, imponderables - what is the attraction of places like the UK for tourists? I really cannot understand WHY people want to come here and get ripped off.

Replies ONLY from people who have visited this place as a tourist - Why?

Urban Ranger · July 5, 2003, 05:01

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OK, imponderables - what is the attraction of places like the UK for tourists? I really cannot understand WHY people want to come here and get ripped off.

Well there are some interesting bits, like looking at the stuff stolen from other countries in the Bristish Museum. Going to the London library and look at the place where Karl Marx did his work was quite facinating.

C0ckney · July 5, 2003, 07:41

yeah catch 22 is a great book, and the film version was brilliantly done as well

Eli · July 5, 2003, 07:47

Catch 22 sucks. Totally. Between every good paragraph there are 5 pages of ultra-boring stuff.

Seeker · July 5, 2003, 09:36

What is it with air conditioning and london hotels?

I was looking and even the posh old hotels just don't seem to believe in air conditioning.

Don't they have humidity in the UK??

C0ckney · July 5, 2003, 09:38

air condictioning units? we call them windows

geeslaka · July 5, 2003, 09:51

How much wood could a wood chuck upchuck if a wood chuck could upchuck wood?

BeBro · July 5, 2003, 12:42

I liked the book. And I always had to laugh about "Major Major"

Eli · July 5, 2003, 12:46

Yeah. The Major Major Major Major part was the only good thing about the book, at least in the first half of it that I read before I got bored.

Sirotnikov · July 5, 2003, 19:06

Eli - that's just a sign that you aren't old enough to get the moral of the story

the ending half is less funny but it closes many storylines and explains many wierd situations.

Sirotnikov · July 5, 2003, 19:11

WOOHOO!!!

Avatars!!!

Panag · July 5, 2003, 19:37

hi ,

a catch 22 , means getting back to where you started , means making a step forward and two backward , ....

a terrible situation thats hard to get out

like you Pekka , you cant decide to get a nice diploma or go into the FFL , .....

have a great one

Uncle Sparky · July 5, 2003, 19:45

Apolyton should be spelled "Apollyon".

Apollyon is in Rev 9:11 "And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon."

MarkG never was much of a speller.

This is one hell of a site !!!

alva · July 5, 2003, 19:51

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Here you can post things you've always wanted to know, but were too embarrased to ask.

Why do we visit (live

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Pekka · July 5, 2003, 21:10

oanag, that's kind of scary... I mean you hear my inner desires and thoughts.. on the other hand now I have a place to study something I always wanted to study.. but somehow I'm not satisfied.. somehow I just dream of doing it and you know what I mean... scary.

Uncle Sparky · July 5, 2003, 22:03

Pekka - Sounds like a Catch 22 situation. You should hope Apollyon can help you !

Elok · July 5, 2003, 22:19

Actually, the last thread I read on it in the community forum said it means "mighty ones," or some such, in Greek.
Whatever the etymology is, this forum can hardly be called "a polite one." So that stupid derivation's out.

Panag · July 6, 2003, 05:46

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Originally posted by Pekka
oanag, that's kind of scary... I mean you hear my inner desires and thoughts.. on the other hand now I have a place to study something I always wanted to study.. but somehow I'm not satisfied.. somehow I just dream of doing it and you know what I mean... scary.

hi ,

told ya a zillion times before , there are plenty of options to study and do your dream at the same time , ......

and what you want , we know everything , even your inner desires , ......

have a nice one