Rioting

Shaft · July 5, 2003, 08:14

Well first please excuse my bad english

Mhh, actually there was a thread about this already but I can't answer there...

Until now I was always looking for a way to predict, which city would have a red citizen when i found a new one but i never found an answer. Neither here nor anywhere else. so maybe i was a little blind or I'm the first who writes it down here.

Well, I found a scheme which tells you which cities will have a first red or even black citizen.

Note: This is only one scheme, I know there is another one, I will soon post here. Further Schemes are not known to me yet.

The first number shhows the number of cities, the second one the city, where you'll have a first red or black citizen

Despotism

5 2 red

6 1,2,5,6

7 1,2,4,5,6

8 all red

9 all red + 2,6 black

Monarchie

7 4 red

8 3,4

9 2,3,4,8,9

10 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10

11 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10

12 all red

13 all red + 4,10 black

14 all red+ 3,4,9,10 black

15 all red + 2,3,4,8,9,10,14,15 black

16 all red + 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10,13,14,15,16 black

17 all red + 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,12,13,14,15,16 black

18 all black

Republik

9 6 red

10 5,6

11 4,5,6

12 3,4,5,6,11,12

13 2,3,4,5,6,10,11,12,13

14 1,2,3,4,5,6,9,10,11,12,13,14

15 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14

16 all red

Edit: Sorry, the tabs are not working that good. I may attach a table soon or something like that.

Shaft · July 5, 2003, 08:24

Ah! what i forgot to write. this only works on a small standard map, deity.

La Fayette · July 5, 2003, 12:19

Welcome, Shaft

IIRC a complete table has already been published by SlowThinker, but I don't remember the name of the thread. I shall ask him tonight.

SlowThinker · July 5, 2003, 17:08

Shaft, go to GL (strategy forum), there is a link to 'happiness quirk'.

rah · July 5, 2003, 21:27

For those more lazy people..........

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...=&threadid=998

RAH

Hydey · July 6, 2003, 01:57

lazy people like me

rah · July 6, 2003, 04:00

Actually, I'm kind of surprise that I retrieved the link.

Lazy = efficient. (or at least that's what I say at work)

RAH

SlowThinker · July 6, 2003, 18:25

Quote:

Originally posted by rah
For those more lazy people..........RAH

Rah I am trying to learn people to visit the GL...

rah · July 7, 2003, 10:32

Actually the link may get them to visit the GL more.
Most people are too lazy to look for something, but once they see all the useful information, they will make the effort to go back for more.

La Fayette · July 7, 2003, 11:48

Quote:

Originally posted by rah
once they see all the useful information, they will make the effort to go back for more.

So true

When I discovered Apolyton, I remember I spent 2 months reading the archive (no GL at the time) before posting my first post

(though you can bet I'm lazy: I never played for high score in my life

)

rah · July 7, 2003, 15:30

Yeah, this place was much better than all the early stratagy books. I used to laugh at some of the stuff that was in them. And once MP came out, this was the only REAL place.

War4ever · July 7, 2003, 23:45

aint' that the truth..strat guides are usually so lame

rah · July 8, 2003, 09:05

Yeah, I read one were it recommended researching warrior code in your first 5 techs so you could defend/attack the barbs.

War4ever · July 8, 2003, 10:11

rah · July 8, 2003, 10:55

And some of the early ones totally ignored trade as a viable strategy.

Shaft · July 8, 2003, 14:47

Quote:

Most people are too lazy to look for something, but once they see all the useful information, they will make the effort to go back for more.

Well, i looked there but i didnt find anything and 2happiness quirk" is...a bad name for this topic.

You need simple words for simple people.

rah · July 8, 2003, 15:51

Hmm, here were the two entries I saw

Happiness.......................happiness, riot factor, disorder, WLTxD
happiness quirk...............happiness summary, unhappiness due to number of cities

Seems pretty SIMPLE for me. Found it in less then 5 seconds.

SlowThinker · July 8, 2003, 18:12

Happiness quirk is the original name of the thread. The right column is a synopsis.

War4ever · July 8, 2003, 23:27

its pretty easy just to surf there, one of the quotes in the posting should say check out the GL

DrSpike · July 9, 2003, 05:12

Quote:

Originally posted by War4ever
aint' that the truth..strat guides are usually so lame

I don't think there is a proven instance of a guide being written by someone that's played the game.

rah · July 9, 2003, 12:33

Hmmm, it was obvious that they had played the game, but it was equally obvious that they played badly.

In all fairness, I do remember one guide that was pretty good, and then there was Vel's guide here.

RAH

DrSpike · July 9, 2003, 13:29

Vel's SMAC guide ruled..........but that was written by a player, not some company stooge.

rah · July 9, 2003, 13:37

And in the original days at this site, Every thread was a valuable guide.

War4ever · July 9, 2003, 23:11

Quote:

Originally posted by rah
And in the original days at this site, Every thread was a valuable guide.

this game is like 7 years old now.... the fact were still unravelling mysteries is cool....

many threads now aren't as usefull unless your willing to totally disect the game.

that said, there are those, i applaud them for proving most everything i already know or suspected but couldn't prove

rah · July 10, 2003, 08:37

Or even when someone quantifies what you've always done based on instinct.

War4ever · July 11, 2003, 00:44

Many pepole have tried to write a strat..... again they are actual players tho

rah · July 11, 2003, 08:42

Yes, there have been quite a few here.
Most people have focused on specific atributes of the game. I'm too lazy to cover the whole game.

Ming · July 12, 2003, 03:11

The archive is full of great stuff... and the new threads just show we all still like the game after years of playing.

I'm sure that won't be the case with Civ III... sigh...

DrSpike · July 12, 2003, 06:17

Lol 5 years from now Civ3 will be dead IMO.

Hydey · July 12, 2003, 08:13

I can't see people still playing civ 3 the way we are still playing civ 2