If Civ3 is based on SMAC, then why does it suck so much?

Nubclear · July 7, 2003, 05:01

Civ3 was built off the SMAC engine, and was probably a code re-write. If so.....Why does it suck SOO much? It was built off one of the greatest games in history....

alva · July 7, 2003, 06:08

JJJeeesh, won't this noobs ever learn how to make threads...

Why make two, one isn't enough for you??

SMAC

CIV3

Harovan · July 7, 2003, 06:20

If Tassadar is based on Adam and Eve, now why is he such a mor(m)onic troll?

Impaler[WrG] · July 7, 2003, 10:19

Actualy It is NOT

Brian Reynolds was the Brains behind SMAC (so it should be called "Brian Reynolds Alpha Centauri" as that Sid guy had way less influence). Reynolds was not involved in the develpoment of CIV 3 most likly because he was starting his own company and working on Rise of Nations (vindications of is so sweet is it not?)

Lord_Davinator · July 7, 2003, 11:29

SMAC was a good game granted but like Impaler said its had little to do with civ3.

Alex · July 7, 2003, 11:32

0.00000001/10. You can do better than this, Tass.

vmxa1 · July 7, 2003, 12:20

Just now getting to this? The game is out for how long now?
Anyway I love SMAC, but finally got burnt out on it. I still play CivIII & PTW. That you do not care for is not to say it sucks.
It seems to me to be rather infintile to come on to the board for the express purpose of saying you do not like the game 2 years after it came out. But, you have gotten your attention now so be happy.
Oh and of course your opinion would have more value if you did not make statements that were so far off from the truth.
SMAC is not the same engine or even the same lead designer.

Panag · July 7, 2003, 14:43

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Civ3 was built off the SMAC engine, and was probably a code re-write. If so.....Why does it suck SOO much? It was built off one of the greatest games in history....

hi ,

sjee , seen the sales , ....... more people have it then smac , .....

if it sucks so much , then why do you even play it , ......

have a nice day

Nubclear · July 7, 2003, 17:25

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Originally posted by panag

hi ,

sjee , seen the sales , ....... more people have it then smac , .....

if it sucks so much , then why do you even play it , ......

have a nice day

Aah, but theres the great part about it. I DONT

Just trying to troll people. Nevermind me.

Quote:

Actualy It is NOT

Then why do the earliest screenshots show that "drone riot" face, AND several text files show features only in SMAC? ;0

Panag · July 7, 2003, 17:27

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

Aah, but theres the great part about it. I DONT

Just trying to troll people. Nevermind me.

Then why do the earliest screenshots show that "drone riot" face, AND several text files show features only in SMAC? ;0

hi ,

can you go trolling then please in a non game thread , ......

have a nice day

vmxa1 · July 7, 2003, 18:05

Not only a troll, but not very bright either.
Firaxis owns both games and the art work that goes with them.

Nubclear · July 7, 2003, 19:26

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Originally posted by vmxa1
Not only a troll, but not very bright either.
Firaxis owns both games and the art work that goes with them.

Which makes the entire situation all that much more puzzling

WarpStorm · July 7, 2003, 20:59

I changed my mind, it isn't worth feed ing the trolls.

Spiffor · July 7, 2003, 22:11

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Then why do the earliest screenshots show that "drone riot" face, AND several text files show features only in SMAC? ;0

1. Graphics weren't complete until the very end of development. If you remember, in screenshots of September 2001, all the building-incons were identical.

2. Civ3's development started being based on SMAC's system, but the departure of Brian Reynolds and half of the team forced a hefty redesign (that's why the editor was so incomplete when Civ3 came out). There are a few remnants of the SMAC-like past of Civ3, but they're just that, remnants.

Harovan · July 8, 2003, 03:58

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Alex · July 8, 2003, 16:13

Nice work, Sir Ralph.

Jon Shafer · July 8, 2003, 17:03

At least Tass doesn't get any enjoyment out of his pirated copy.

Nubclear · July 9, 2003, 19:47

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Originally posted by Sir Ralph

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At least my troll was a bit sucessful.

Theseus · July 9, 2003, 19:56

Tass, look at the Conquests preview.

player1 · July 10, 2003, 08:44

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Civ3 was built off the SMAC engine, and was probably a code re-write. If so.....Why does it suck SOO much? It was built off one of the greatest games in history....

It does not suck.

P.S.
And I found SMAC not to much interesting too.
Regardless of some good fetures.