I don't think the word cracker should be allowed at Apolyton - Page 3

Snowflake · July 11, 2003, 10:59

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Originally posted by Lorizael
Just get rid of all adjectives and all nouns but proper nouns. Then our ability to insult someone will drop to zero, as will our ability to communicate.

Oh we still have verbs and pronouns.

...

"You suck, die!"
"I laugh you. "
"You go hide. "
"He jumps."
...

Harry Seldon · July 11, 2003, 11:29

"Harry Seldon hates you!"
"Harry Seldon will kill you!"
"Harry Seldon humps your Mother!"

Venom · July 11, 2003, 11:32

Am I too late on this one? What about the word niggardly, if used in the proper manner of course. Such as "I attempted to bribe the police with a niggardly sum of 2 dollars."?

I think it shouldn't be blocked. And it of course isn't blocked, and should remain so.

geeslaka · July 11, 2003, 11:40

If you attempt to bribe the police with that little you'll be more than just blocked.

Venom · July 11, 2003, 11:42

Some cops are cheap.

badams52 · July 11, 2003, 15:24

I'm surpised more of you on this board aren't up to speed with all the slang/derogatory terms for white people. I guess honkey is kind of old, I last heard it in The Jefferson's, but I was quite aware of the n-word, cracker and honkey before dissident started ranting about censoring them.

Of course the easiest solution would be for dissident to just report to the mods any "uncivil" use of the term "cracker."

If someone uses an offensive term, but the target doesn't find it offensive, is it still an insult?

geeslaka · July 11, 2003, 16:17

No. Therefore nothing said to me is an insult.

Snowflake · July 11, 2003, 17:39

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Originally posted by badams52

Of course the easiest solution would be for dissident to just report to the mods any "uncivil" use of the term "cracker."

But that would mean dissident wouldn't get +1s.

Dis · July 12, 2003, 02:43

double post (the first post didn't appear to go through- I got the error page)

Dis · July 12, 2003, 02:44

honkey isn't made up.

I'm not that old am I? it's an out of date derogatory term used against whites. Rarely used now days.

Some of you need to watch the Jeffersons

Err wait, you guys probably never heard of that tv show.

geeslaka · July 12, 2003, 09:28

I've have heard the term honkey and I knew it's meaning preiously. I nearly watched the Jeffersons once but I remembered that something I was more familiar with was on. So no, you're not that old.

Ben Kenobi · July 12, 2003, 16:32

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If someone uses an offensive term, but the target doesn't find it offensive, is it still an insult?

Nope.

That's the beauty of the attitude, it makes the other debater look bad for resorting to ad-hominem, plus he fails in provoking you.

As for Honky, I've heard of the term before, but I doubt any of my friends have.

geeslaka · July 12, 2003, 16:44

Yeah, people are woefully undereducated when it comes to name calling.

Q Classic · July 13, 2003, 09:28

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If someone uses an offensive term, but the target doesn't find it offensive, is it still an insult?

it's great when you're korean. jap and chink don't work, and these days gooks refers more to se asia than korea.

geeslaka · July 13, 2003, 10:26

Before you said it I didn't know which race the term gook referred to.

Dis · July 13, 2003, 14:56

what I find interesting is mankinds need to make up words. gook isn't a word, someone had to make that up.

It's times like these, I believe racism is inherant to the human race. There is no getting rid of it.

Dis · July 13, 2003, 19:31

by the way.

some of you may have heard the term honkey in the James Bond movie: Live and Let Die. Anyone who is a James Bond fan should have seen this movie. It has the wonderful Jane Seymour in it.

It's also regarded as the most racist of the Bond movies

. A lot of people balked at the fact that black people are the bad guys. And they use terms like "You got a honkey on your tail"- referring to James Bond of course.

And the movie is on TNN right now

Chilean President™ · July 13, 2003, 19:50

what does "honkey" means?

mrmitchell · July 13, 2003, 20:13

Much as caucasians have their own derogatory labels for the African race, an old term I believe to be mostly of African-American use for the derogatory labelling of caucasians is "honkey".

(I hope I didn't say anything that might be politically incorrect...

Chilean President™ · July 13, 2003, 20:27

ah ok, thanks mrmitchell

well if someone tell me honkey when I'll get to the US I'll punch him in the face

j/k

I find interesting the 'politically correct' terms that you guys use. For example (and I hope not offend any body) in Chile we do not have people of colour, so we commonly use the word 'black' to refer them, and I know that over there the proper term is 'afro-american', as native american for what we call here 'indians'. But when I got really surprise was when I met a (white) American that was in bussiness here and a friend of me ask him for something about 'white people' and he got really mad cause he said that the term 'white' was racist... and I didn't get it, well after all we are also white and we call ourselves white people.

Well, I think that's because Americans are more use to find people of different races, that's why you have so many 'politically correct terms'.

good for you

geeslaka · July 13, 2003, 21:02

We have so many 'politically correct' terms because of idiots that look for any excuse they can think of to be offended and get angry.

mrmitchell · July 13, 2003, 21:19

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and he got really mad cause he said that the term 'white' was racist...

He was a nut. No one here uses "caucasian" in every day speech; "African American" is a distant second to "black" really. I was exxagerating for effect.

sorry

Chilean President™ · July 13, 2003, 21:22

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He was a nut.

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sorry

don't worry

And I actually use the word 'black' on english and not the word on spanish 'cause I know that, that word is offensive.

Dis · July 13, 2003, 21:40

negro? It's a perfectly legitimate spanish word to describe the color of something.

The Mad Monk · July 13, 2003, 22:23

Did anyone actually get around to giving the origin of "cracker" as a slur?

It's a shortening of "whip cracker", i.e., "slaver". So we're being called slavers. Specifically, it refers to the plantation foremen who used the whip liberally.

I'll see what I can find on "honkey".

Q Classic · July 13, 2003, 22:40

gook isn't an american word.

the origins of it came from the korean war, when koreans would ask soldiers if they were americans-- "mi.guk(.sa.ram)" is the word, but the americans obviously had no idea what they were saying and so shot them (or not, as the case may be).

'course, since they had no idea that it should have referred to them, they used it to refer to the koreans, at least until vietnam came along, when the word was redefined to its current definition, which refers to the vietnamese.

geeslaka · July 13, 2003, 22:41

So apparently the idea that it doesn't matter where you come from only applies to people and not to words.

Hydey · July 13, 2003, 22:59

If while sitting at the bar, some nigger comes up to me and calls me a cracker I am likely to say "G'Day Mate, would you like a beer?"

Then after 10 or so beers we will be laughing at all the different names we can call each other.

Yes i am trying to be funny and not to offend for you childish morons who would take offence

notyoueither · July 14, 2003, 03:12

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Originally posted by Hydey
If while sitting at the bar, some nigger comes up to me and calls me a cracker I am likely to say "G'Day Mate, would you like a beer?"

Then after 10 or so beers we will be laughing at all the different names we can call each other.

Yes i am trying to be funny and not to offend for you childish morons who would take offence

I almost didn't believe a friend of mine when he told me about such things in Oz. His term was 'black fella'. Apparently, not too many people are too hung up on language. I still haven't figured out if that is a good thing. But hey, if it works down under, not mine to judge.

Skanky Burns · July 14, 2003, 06:14

Sounds normal to me.