Is it Vietnam yet? - Page 3

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 19:28

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
A dishonorable discharge, and you've screwed the pooch.
I don't know who's been blowing rainbows up your ass about that little fact.

I'm still waiting for my honorable discharge to affect me in anyway whatsoever.

Agathon · July 10, 2003, 19:30

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Originally posted by Sprayber
When you sign your name to a contract and take an oath, you don't just run whenever it suits you or if it gets a little tough. At least that was the way I was raised. Perhaps that way of thinking isn't cool these days but I'm comfortable with it.

OK - let's say you joined the German army in 1931. It was a fine (if reduced) and honourable force and you thought your government was pretty decent compared to some in the world.

Then Hitler turns up, what would you do?

SlowwHand · July 10, 2003, 19:31

You can go to the Veteran's hospital, get loans, lots of things.

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 19:33

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
You can go to the Veteran's hospital, get loans, lots of things.

Never done any of those things in 13 years.

Sprayber · July 10, 2003, 19:33

Are you still here because your fantasy world is starting to give me the creeps. Now I will have to look over my shoulder all day thinking the evil nazi soldiers of the imperialist american army are gonna get me.

SlowwHand · July 10, 2003, 19:39

That's your fault, Kidicious.
Your mother/wife/girlfriend makes supper for you, but you don't eat, is that their fault ?

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 19:42

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
That's your fault, Kidicious.
Your mother/wife/girlfriend makes supper for you, but you don't eat, is that their fault ?

Well atleast Sprayber is going because he feels obligated to the US, you would go for the veteran's benefits. Sorry, but that's just plain silly

Agathon · July 10, 2003, 19:42

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Originally posted by Sprayber
Are you still here because your fantasy world is starting to give me the creeps. Now I will have to look over my shoulder all day thinking the evil nazi soldiers of the imperialist american army are gonna get me.

Looks like the only discharge you'll get is courtesy of an Iraqui hooker.

MichaeltheGreat · July 10, 2003, 19:43

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Originally posted by Kidicious
A dishonorable discharge isn't as bad as they make it out to be. You may not return the same, or you may not return.

A DD is a loser's or coward's ticket.

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 19:44

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Originally posted by Agathon
Looks like the only discharge you'll get is courtesy of an Iraqui hooker.

OUCH!

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 19:46

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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
A DD is a loser's or coward's ticket.

No. Only a loser would let himself be exploited like that. Losers are weakminded folks who just do what they are told even when it's not in their interest.

SlowwHand · July 10, 2003, 19:47

Kidicious.

Did I say one should get married to get supper?
Did I say one should join the military just for the benefits?
Actually, that's ok, too.
I don't think a commie wannabe would join strictly for benefits, but if you say so, it's gold.

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 19:50

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
I don't think a commie wannabe would join strictly for benefits, but if you say so, it's gold.

I did join for the benefits, but If I had it to do over again I wouldn't. I don't feel that I got a fair deal. They worked me too hard, and for **** pay, they tried to put my life unnecessarily in danger, and as far as they are concerned the only benefits I should get are to go to their shitty hospital.

MichaeltheGreat · July 10, 2003, 19:50

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Originally posted by Agathon

Looks like the only discharge you'll get is courtesy of an Iraqui hooker.

Chill now.

Oerdin · July 10, 2003, 19:53

The best thing you can say about a guy with a DD is that he's either incompetent or a **** up. More likely he's worse.

(So saith Oerdin an honorably discharge veteran.)

Agathon · July 10, 2003, 19:56

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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

Chill now.

Don't worry, it was meant as a joke. I should have added a smiley though.

MichaeltheGreat · July 10, 2003, 19:57

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Originally posted by Kidicious

No. Only a loser would let himself be exploited like that. Losers are weakminded folks who just do what they are told even when it's not in their interest.

The "loser" is one who knows what's reguired, knows what the job entails, does it while convenient, then decides to be a ***** and whine and run when it becomes inconvenient.

Agathon · July 10, 2003, 20:02

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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

The "loser" is one who knows what's reguired, knows what the job entails, does it while convenient, then decides to be a ***** and whine and run when it becomes inconvenient.

That person would be a loser. I don't think someone who refuses because he thinks it's immoral would be in the same camp.

BTW Michael, as an ex-military man, I thought you would have heard all the military discharge jokes before.

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 20:02

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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

The "loser" is one who knows what's reguired, knows what the job entails, does it while convenient, then decides to be a ***** and whine and run when it becomes inconvenient.

Unpatriotic, maybe. Loser, no. I person who can see the costs and benefits involved and make the best decision for himself is a winner.

SlowwHand · July 10, 2003, 20:17

You should have done that before you reported for duty.
Kind of like that whack-job of the 101.
BTW, have they dusted him yet ?

DinoDoc · July 10, 2003, 20:24

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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
If it's too easy you might start to get ideas...

Canada is so close and they do have all that wonderful oil.

PS IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER VIETNAM.

SlowwHand · July 10, 2003, 20:28

All that's in Canada is mooseshit.

MichaeltheGreat · July 10, 2003, 20:33

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Originally posted by Agathon

That person would be a loser. I don't think someone who refuses because he thinks it's immoral would be in the same camp.

BTW Michael, as an ex-military man, I thought you would have heard all the military discharge jokes before.

Having heard them, and considering them appropriate in the context of the forum rules are two different things.

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 20:40

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
You should have done that before you reported for duty.

People don't really understand what the're getting into. They don't understand that the military values their lives very little. That's the part they don't tell you when the recruit you.

SlowwHand · July 10, 2003, 20:45

B.S. More B.S.
Why does the military not leave anyone behind ?
Before you argue with me, think Somalia.

Kidicious · July 10, 2003, 20:49

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
B.S. More B.S.
Why does the military not leave anyone behind ?
Before you argue with me, think Somalia.

Have the time they should never have put people in danger.

Tuberski · July 10, 2003, 21:02

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Originally posted by Kidicious

People don't really understand what the're getting into. They don't understand that the military values their lives very little. That's the part they don't tell you when the recruit you.

Having been in the military, I can tell you that most of us DO understand that fact. But you're life has more value than it did, say, 50 years ago.

It isn't cheap to train people, you know.

ACK!

chequita guevara · July 10, 2003, 21:48

This Administration is trying to cut veteran's benefits, it's trying to cut imminent danger pay from a shockingly low $225 a month to a "**** you" of $150 a month. I has opposed a plan to raise the amount of death benefits for families killed while on active duty from $6,000 to $12,000.

Your country obviously doesn't give a **** about you other than mouthing platitudes about how they support the troops. When it comes to real support, they're doing what they've always done, and shafted the the men and women who put their lives on the line.

It's just sad.

All this at the hands of a man who deserted his post, a post that he only got to dodge the draft in the first place.

It sickens me that people who were so vehemently accusing those opposed to the war of hurting our troops have the asses in the air and their cheeks spread for a usurper and deserter who has done more to hurt US soldiers than any president since Nixon.

Agathon · July 10, 2003, 21:58

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara

It sickens me that people who were so vehemently accusing those opposed to the war of hurting our troops have the asses in the air and their cheeks spread for a usurper and deserter who has done more to hurt US soldiers than any president since Nixon.

Yeeeaaahhhh!!!!

Vandal-1 · July 10, 2003, 22:10

IMO The Bush administrations integrity was one of the first casualties of the war,I believe that I even went so far as to recomend that there be a investigation to expose the amount of corporate ties to energy companies who have existing or potential stake in the war .That will however be the next step that the American people or some segment there of will undertake.
The War while not presently at near the scope of the Viet-nam conflict is potentially worse since both the Area of occupation as well as the populatioin that we are working with is larger, and the risk of further esculation can not be ruled out. (i.e.Iran Tajik and Kazack.) Some of which do have factions and interest that would support the U.S. If it is true that America cannot achieve to gain any further support from other western powers besides the UK then (even thoe I think this is false) it is more propper that the Iraqi s make decisions and enforce the laws as they see them so long as they do not possess a offensive military and are subject to monitors.
Further measures to reduce the oppositions ability to recruit assasins might include Partnership for peace troops from friendlier Muslim nations being deployed