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"Iran's President Mohammad Khatami ordered four ministers to investigate the death of the freelance photographer. "
This is enough, stop with the "they're threatening the US and the free world" BS
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July 16, 2003, 06:44
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"ran's President Mohammad Khatami ordered four ministers to investigate the death of the freelance photographer. "
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Just words.
You are easy to buy into this. I want to see results. So wait on calling other people idiot warmongers. 
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July 16, 2003, 06:45
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I edited my post Fez...
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July 16, 2003, 06:46
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And?
You don't have a clue do you? They are threatening the world.
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July 16, 2003, 06:46
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And why shouldnt they have nukes?
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July 16, 2003, 06:47
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Well, you could edit the quote too 
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July 16, 2003, 06:47
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And why shouldnt they have nukes?
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They support terrorism.
You are illogical. 
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July 16, 2003, 06:48
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In what am I illogical?
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July 16, 2003, 06:49
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You try to defend something that should not be defended.
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July 16, 2003, 06:50
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"Iran's President Mohammad Khatami ordered four ministers to investigate the death of the freelance photographer. "
This is enough, stop with the "they're threatening the US and the free world" BS
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Ok, it seems that westerners won't be hurt anymore. Let the opression of everyone who is not straight, male, and muslim in that country continue. 
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July 16, 2003, 06:52
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Says you! First off I havent defended terrorism here. What do you think they would do with the nukes? Attack USA or Israel? Gimme a break nobodys that crazy. they have everyright ot build nukes, just as israel, india and china has...
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July 16, 2003, 06:52
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July 16, 2003, 06:54
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Says you! First off I havent defended terrorism here. What do you think they would do with the nukes? Attack USA or Israel? Gimme a break nobodys that crazy. they have everyright ot build nukes, just as israel, india and china has...
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a related question:
Does Bin-laden has the right to build nukes?
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July 16, 2003, 06:58
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Well, frankly those things have nothing to do with threatening the us...
And they are not casus bellii or justifications for unlegal espionage activity. Anyhow as far as I know women are not that opressed anymore. Someone might ask you about palestenians and their oppression, but lets not start that.
Iran has improved enormously during the last decade...
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July 16, 2003, 06:59
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Says you! First off I havent defended terrorism here.
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Yes you have.
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What do you think they would do with the nukes? Attack USA or Israel?
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If they were desperate enough and saw the end of the their regime, yes.
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Gimme a break nobodys that crazy. they have everyright ot build nukes, just as israel, india and china has...
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No they don't have that right. India should lay down their nukes as should China. India, China and Pakistan are just too dangerous to have them. Just imagine if they launched them at each other. Millions could die.
Your logic is flawed.
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July 16, 2003, 06:59
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Um az, dont be an ass. Are you seriously comparing OBL and Iranian government?
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July 16, 2003, 07:00
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So tell me dear fez, who has the right to build nukes?
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And how have I defended terrorism here?
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July 16, 2003, 07:03
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Well, frankly those things have nothing to do with threatening the us...
And they are not casus bellii or justifications for unlegal espionage activity. Anyhow as far as I know women are not that opressed anymore.
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Someone might ask you about palestenians and their oppression, but lets not start that.
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there's a war going on with the palestinians. Sure they will be opressed.
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And NOT thanks to the government.
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Um az, dont be an ass. Are you seriously comparing OBL and Iranian government?
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If OBL was a Shiite, and whould establish a government, the Islamic Republic would be the way it would look. The Iranian government is plain, and simple, evil. Just the same way we don't want DRPK to have nukes, we don't want Iran to have nukes.
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July 16, 2003, 07:04
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So tell me dear fez, who has the right to build nukes?
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Developed countries who are responsible.
India, Pakistan and China are just big IFs... it is far too dangerous for these countries to possess these weapons.
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July 16, 2003, 07:09
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Az, do you really see things so black and white? All the sudden you have became an expert in Iranian government and OBL teachings.
"NOT thanks to the government"? Huh? Should we thank the mullahs instead
you cant possibly know what OBL would do and saying that Iran is just a shiite alternative to OBL is just plain ridiculous.
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July 16, 2003, 07:11
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Developed countries who are responsible.
India, Pakistan and China are just big IFs... it is far too dangerous for these countries to possess these weapons.
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I think it's far more dangerous if anyone possess Nukes. Complete disarmament is what I want! 
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July 16, 2003, 07:12
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Az, do you really see things so black and white? All the sudden you have became an expert in Iranian government and OBL teachings.
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There could be governments worse than the Iranian government. But that doesn't say much does it.
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"NOT thanks to the government"? Huh? Should we thank the mullahs instead
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The "mullahs" ARE the government.
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July 16, 2003, 07:13
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Aha? So are all the mps and ministers mullahs too?
Geez, I didnt have a clue...
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July 16, 2003, 07:14
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I think it's far more dangerous if anyone possess Nukes. Complete disarmament is what I want!
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Ronald Reagan wanted the same believe it or not. (At least that is what he said in his autobiography, An American Life)
And I do too. I want all nuclear weapons eliminated.
But when it came to the cold war, deterrance was necessary.
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So we agree on this. 
In the mean time, I still don't see any reason why iran shouldnt have nukes..
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So we agree on this. 
In the mean time, I still don't see any reason why iran shouldnt have nukes..
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You are contradicting yourself. You say there shouldn't be any nukes, yet Iran should have them?
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Yeah youre right,I said that because we dont live in the nuke-free world yet. But you know what. You just said that you want a complete disarmament but few replies ago you said that developed nations could build nukes.
So you're as guilty as me. Maybe you should be more careful with your accusations, so next time you wouldnt shoot yourself... 
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July 16, 2003, 07:24
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Yeah youre right,I said that because we dont live in the nuke-free world yet. But you know what. You just said that you want a complete disarmament but few replies ago you said that developed nations could build nukes.
So you're as guilty as me. Maybe you should be more careful with your accusations, so next time you wouldnt shoot yourself...
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When there is a dangerous like North Korea or Iran acquring nuclear weapons, developed countries must have a deterrance against this.
So you are the guilty one around here. idiot.
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July 16, 2003, 07:25
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I won!
Did I just pissed you off?
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