July 20, 2003, 23:09
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Getting quite sad isn't it... :/
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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July 20, 2003, 23:12
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#182
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You know. This was a really good thread going on. I had to drive a few hours to pick up my son and was really interested to which way the debate had gone. What a pity that one of the biggest thread jackings ever came about. I just have one statement to make: It is not only okay for us to disagree and debate, it is the preferable way to exchange information to reach a conclusion. I've had my mind changed by some insightful and clear thinking by people I originally disagreed with. I have never had it changed by someone throwing insults and making threats. Something to keep in mind unless you have such low self esteem and lack of facts that you must resort to this strategy.
Mtg...Impressive display of firepower, to say the least.
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July 20, 2003, 23:53
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Bush will probably win another term. There is no Democrat that looks that strong.
It's kinda like Blair vs. Iain Duncan-Smith or something  .
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July 20, 2003, 23:53
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Bush will probably win another term. There is no Democrat that looks that strong.
It's kinda like Blair vs. Iain Duncan-Smith or something .
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July 21, 2003, 00:21
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Well, the positive thing about Bush getting re-elected, is that I'll be able to tell my kids, "Yeah, right after the millenium, we had the worst 8 years." Eventually we'll get a good progressive president who will straighten all this crap out.
I can see it now... I'll be sitting in front of a fireplace with, perhaps, my grandchildren...
"Grampa Sava, was it true people believed that giving rich people money helped the economy?"
"Yes, little Sava III, evil greedy corporate robber barons once controlled the nation for long stretches of time... they brainwashed good, moral people into believing trickle down economics worked. The 80's and after the start of the new millenium... were bad times for America... record unemployments, massive deficits, wars for political gain; but eventually, smart Americans realized one party was controlled by these criminals and the other paid lip service to those of us who detested them. Then **futurepolitician** campaigned to the people and was able to reform the political system so that everyone's voice could be heard. You see, America didn't become a free country overnight. I took almost a hundred years and a war to end slavery, 50 more until women could vote, 50 more until we started to see civil rights legislation, and nearly 50 more before we stopped corporations from running the country. But eventually, America became a truly free nation where everyone had health care, education, and justice... America became like a small town, where everyone cared about each other"
ahhh yes... I know it's silly, but such a vision of the future is one that keeps me going. I have hope that evil ****ers like Dubya, Cheney, Rummy, and company, will eventually be gone.
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July 21, 2003, 00:28
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Deity
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Sava,
They haven't convinced anyone that trickle down economics works. Just the opposite.
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July 21, 2003, 00:37
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Sava,
They haven't convinced anyone that trickle down economics works. Just the opposite.
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March of 2003? You haven't been to these forums long enough.  I dare you to say Clinton's 1993 budget was responsible for much of the job growth and economic prosperity in the 90's and you'll have several mouth-breathing nitwits chanting, "It was Reagans policies!".
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July 21, 2003, 01:09
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King
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Sava, fortunately for all of us you can't infringe your "beliefs" on a nation of 280 million.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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July 21, 2003, 01:12
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Actually he can. You see, Sava's actually the head of a secret organ . . . no, I've said too muh.
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July 21, 2003, 01:14
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King
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Actually he can. You see, Sava's actually the head of a secret organ . . . no, I've said too muh.
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Yeah and so am I... oh shoot..
I have never said anything. This post doesn't exist.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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July 21, 2003, 01:21
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Actually he can. You see, Sava's actually the head of a secret organ . . . no, I've said too muh.
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