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Old July 26, 2003, 04:16   #1
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New Constitution
Alright, after hours of work, I present to you the first draft of the new constitution.

The only thing that remains to be completed would be the clauses dealing with the CMC, as well as the intelligence division. As for the Civil Liberties part of the constitution, I was just considering using the clauses from the present constitution.

Well there we go, if anyone has any suggestions, comments, etc. post them here. Tomorrow will be the day the day the new constitution will be voted on, after which election will be held under the new constitution and the new government will take office on August 1st.

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CONSTITUTION OF THE PEOPLE OF THE HUMAN HIVE

General Principles

Article 1 [Socialist State]
(1) The Human Hive is a socialist state under the people's democratic dictatorship led by the working class.
(2) The socialist system is the basic system of the Human Hive. Sabotage of the socialist system by any organization or individual is prohibited.

Article 2 [Sovereignty]
(1) All power in the Human Hive belongs to the people.
(2) The organs through which the people exercise state power are the Central Continuing Committee, the People’s Congress, the Ministry of Law, the Department of Development, and their various subsidiary bodies.
(3) The people administer state affairs and manage economic, cultural and social affairs through various channels and in various ways in accordance with the law.

Article 3 [Democratic Centralism]
(1) The state organs of the Human Hive apply the principle of democratic centralism.
(2) The Central Continuing Committee, People’s Congress, Ministry of Law, and Department of Development are instituted through democratic election. They are responsible to the people and subject to their supervision.
(3) All administrative, judicial and procuratorial organs of the state are created by the Central Continuing Committee to which they are responsible and under whose supervision they operate.
(4) The division of functions and powers between the central and local state organs is guided by the principle of giving full play to the initiative and enthusiasm of the local authorities under the unified leadership of the central authorities.

Article 4 [Socialist Legal System, Rule of Law]
(1) The state upholds the uniformity and dignity of the socialist legal system.
(2) No law or administrative or local rules and regulations shall contravene the Constitution.
(3) All state organs, the armed forces, all political parties and public organizations, and all enterprises and undertakings must abide by the Constitution and the law. All acts in violation of the Constitution and the law must be looked into.
(4) No organization or individual may enjoy the privilege of being above the Constitution and the law.

Structure of the State

Article 5 [Highest Organ of State Power]
The Central Continuing Committee of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic is the highest organ of state power. It is headed by the Chairman of the Central Continuing Committee of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic.

Article 5a [Central Continuing Committee]
(1) The Central Continuing Committee is the executive branch of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic. It is composed of the Chairman, Deputy Chairman, and People’s Deputies.

(2a) The Central Continuing Committee has the right to:
-amend the constitution;
-decide on the choice of the Commissioner of Foreign Relations, the head of the Military Commission, and the head of any special Commissions;
-decide on the choice of department heads for the various departments;
-approve the Judges of the Supreme People's Court;
-examine and approve the plan for national economic and social development and the report on its implementation;
-examine and approve the state budget and the report on its implementation;
-alter or annul inappropriate decisions of the Department of Development and the People’s Congress;
-dismiss administrators of subservient administrative bodies if found that they are not complying with the will of the People, or interests of the State
-approve the establishment of prefects, autonomous regions, and municipalities directly under the Central Government;
-decide on the ratification and abrogation of treaties and important agreements concluded with foreign states;
-decide on the enforcement of martial law throughout the country or in particular prefects, autonomous regions or municipalities directly under the Central Government;
-decide on questions of war and peace; &
- exercise such other functions and powers as the highest organ of state power should exercise.

(2b) The Central Continuing Committee has the duties of:
-posting saved files of turns on the forum;
-holding turnchats for every turn, and if not able to do so the decisions as to what actions should be taken on the upcoming turn must be made on the forums and stated in a clear and concise manner;
-post a log of the turnchat on the private forum;
-posting an update of the situation on every turn;
-ensuring that such an update has an in-game image or images detailing the turns events;
-keeping the turnthread updated;
-posting polls to gauge the opinions of the People of non-standard matters (i.e. situations for which there does not already exist a general policy); &
-serving the People and State to the best of their abilities.

Article 5b [Chairman]
(1) The Chairman of the Central Continuing Committee oversees the actions of the Committee and administers their actions. As the head of the highest organ of state the Chairman of the Central Continuing Committee fulfills the role of the Head of Government of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic.

(2a) The Chairman has the right to:
-appoint and remove members of the Central Continuing Committee;
-appoint and recall plenipotentiary representatives abroad;
-ratifies and abrogates treaties and important agreements concluded with foreign states;
-confer state medals and titles of honor;
-issue orders of special pardons;
-proclaim marshal law;
-proclaim a state of war; &
-issue mobilization orders.

(2b) The Chairman has the duties of:
-physically playing the turn;
-oversee all turnchats;
-approving all in-game orders before execution;
-approving all Hiveran laws before they take effect;
-ensuing that all in-game actions reflect the best interests of state;
-calling a state council of all subsidiary governing bodies before making any decisions;
-calling state elections; &
-acting in the bests interests of State.

Article 5c [Deputy Chairman, Councils]
(1) In the event that the Chairman cannot perform any or all of the functions within his duty, a Deputy Chairman, appointed by the Chairman, will act in his place.

(2a) The Deputy Chairman has the right to:
-advice the Chairman in all matters of State.

(2b) The Deputy Chairman has the duties of:
-posting election polls;
-posting nomination threads;
-posting election results;
-performing all functions assigned to him by the Chairman; &
-performing all of the Chairman’s duties if the Chairman is unable to do so.

(3) The duties of the Chairmanship may be subdivided amongst members of the Central Continuing Committee who act on behalf of the Chairman in a similar fashion as the Deputy Chairman, except with clearly defined roles; these individuals are to be referred to for the duration of their functions as Councils. If the latter comes into effect, the Deputy Chairman is to oversee the functions of the Councils.

(4a) The Councils have the right to:
-advise the Chairman in matters of State pertaining to their assigned function.

(4b) The Councils have the duties of:
-performing all functions assigned to them by the Chairman.

Article 6 [Legislative Power]
The People’s Congress exercises the legislative powers of the state.

Article 6a [People’s Congress]
(1) The People’s Congress of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic is the supreme civil legislative body of the Human Hive. Composed of elected representatives of the People of the Human Hive it functions to bring the voice of the People to the Central Continuing Committee.

(2a) The People’s Congress has the right to:
-preside over foreign negotiations;
-set the state budget;
-set development policies;
-issue orders to the Department of Development; &
-compose draft laws.

(2b) The People’s Congress has the duties of:
-ensuring that the decisions of the Department of Development are rational within the context of the in-game rules;
-providing in-game information, calculations, and strategies for use by the Central Continuing Committee in their decision making process;
-voting on proposed bills;
-ensuring that all laws abide by the constitution; &
-watching over the Department of Development to ensure that all actions are in the best interests of the State.

Article 6b [Censor]
(1) The People’s Congress shall be headed by a Censor who is to be elected upon the first meeting of a People’s Congress and who is to preside over all meetings of the People’s Congress.

(2a) The Censor has the right to:
-veto any decision of the People’s Congress; &
-have his 2 votes in the People’s Congress.

(2b) The Censor has the duties of:
-challenging all statistics and figures put forth by the People’s Congress to ensure their validity;
-providing a counter-argument to all proposals by the People’s Congress in order to fully explore all issues;
-ensuring that all possible in-game information has been provided by the People’s Congress so as to facilitate the in-game decision making process of the Central Continuing committee;
-vetoing all incorrect decisions by the People’s Congress;
-ensuring the People’s Congress abide by the constitution, the will of the People, and in the best interests of the State; &
-taking responsibility for all decisions by the People’s Congress.

(3) The nullification of the Veto will require 2/3 of the votes in the People’s Congress, excluding the vote of the Censor.

Article 6c [Representation]
(1) The People’s Congress is composed of deputies elected by the popular vote directly under the central government.
(2) Election of deputies to the People’s Congress is to be conducted on a monthly basis.

Article 7 [People’s Courts and Procuratorates]
The people's courts in the Human Hive are the judicial organs of the state.

Article 7a [Supreme People's Court]
(1) The Supreme People’s Courts is the supreme and final judicial organ of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic.
(2) It shall be composed of 3 magistrates to be elected by the People, and approved by the Central Continuing Committee, to serve for a term not exceeding two months in length.

(3a) The Supreme People’s Court has the right to:
-interpret the constitution.

(3b) The Supreme People’s Court has the duties of:
-seeing all complaints brought forth by a citizen of the Human Hive;
-ruling on aforementioned complaints;
-ensuring all laws passed by the People’s Congress are in compliance with the constitution; &
-suggesting amendments to laws and the constitution to the People’s Congress and Central Continuing Committee respectively.

Article 7b [Responsibility of the Supreme People's Court]
The Supreme People's Court is first and only responsibility is to the People of the Human Hive. The Supreme People’s Court must ensure the interests of the People are put first.

Administration of the State

Article 8 [Departments]
(1) The Departments are the administrative bodies of the government of the Hiverian Solidified Socialist Republic. They follow and implement the will of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Human Hive.
(2) Each department head will be appointed by the Central Continuing Committee.
(3) The term in office of the department heads is indefinite.
(4) The Departments are responsible for providing statistical in-game data in order to facilitate the People’s Congress in their decision making process.
(5) The Departments also are responsible for advising the People’s Congress in what action they should follow.
(6) All department heads must submit their turn order recommendations to the head of the Department of Development, who in turn will submit them to the People’s Congress.
(7) All department heads are allowed to advise and consult with each other. They are also granted the right to petition for changes or actions from other Directors that may be critical to the their department. Ultimately, however, it is the department head in charge of his/her section that has the final say in how things are handled.
(8) All department heads will have to post their general strategies in an 'office' thread which they are responsible for creating and maintaining. This will outline possible situations where the People’s Congress can not ask for orders from the Departments but will have to act on the general orders.

Article 9 [Department of Development]
(1) Department which presides over all other departments, responsible for the general industrial/economic(BUILD), scientific(DISCOVER), exploratory/colonial(EXPLORE), and military (CONQUOR) development of the state.
(2)The department head of the Department of Development shall be referred to as Overseer.

(3a) The Overseer has the right to:
-determine what orders from subservient departments should take precedence;
-issue orders to the subservient departments; &
-set general development policies for the state.

(3b) The Overseer has the duties of:
-being present at all turnchats, or if unable to do so, submit the recommendations of the Departments beforehand;
-ensure that all department heads post statistically relevant in-game information before each turn is conducted in order to facilitate the decision making process;
-ensure that the information submitted by the department heads is accurate;
-propose alternative courses of action to those submitted by the department heads, and ensure that proper discussion takes place before the submission of turn order recommendations; &
-provide images, charts, graphs, etc. which may facilitate better understanding of the concepts discussed so as to help the learning process of less experienced players.

Article 10 [Department of Infrastructure](BUILD)
(1) The Department of Infrastructure encompasses a wide variety of tasks. Namely the Department of Infrastructure concerns itself with base production and terraforming.
(2) The department head of the Department of Infrastructure shall be referred to as Curator.

(3a) The Curator has the right to:
-issue build orders to the Overseer;
-issue terraforming orders to the Overseer;
-issue worker placement orders to the Overseer;
-issue orders in relation to the disbanding, construction, or upgrade of terraforming units; &
-advise any other Department.

(3b) The Curator has the duties of:
-providing in-game information in his ‘office’ thread in order to facilitate the decision making process;
-post polls on matters related to his portfolio; &
-provide orders to the Overseer prior to the turnchat.

Article 11 [Department of Expansion](EXPLORE)(CONQUOR)
(1) The Department of Expansion oversees the colonization and exploration efforts of the state, as well as maintains the military infrastructure.
(2) The department head of the Department of Expansion shall be referred to as Conquisitor.

(3a) The Conquisitor has the right to:
-issue base placement orders to the Overseer;
-issue colony pod construction orders to the Overseer;
-issue exploration and military unit construction orders to the Overseer;
-issue orders in relation to the disbanding, construction, or upgrade of exploration, colonization and military units;
-request builds from the Curator; &
-advise any other Department.

(3b) The Conquisitor has the duties of:
-providing in-game information in his ‘office’ thread in order to facilitate the decision making process;
-post polls on matters related to his portfolio;
-design new exploration, military, and colonization units; &
-provide orders to the Overseer prior to the turnchat.

Article 12 [Department of Manufacturing](BUILD)
(1) The Department of Manufacturing oversees the expenditures of energy credits and allocation of resources.
(2) The department head of the Department of Manufacturing shall be referred to as Quaestor.

(3a) The Quaestor has the right to:
-issue rushbuild orders to the Overseer;
-issue crawler construction orders to the Overseer;
-issue crawler movement orders to the Overseer;
-allocate use of crawlers;
-allocate use of resources outside radius of existing bases;
-advise Commissioner of Foreign Relations on the use of energy credits in trade with other factions;
-request builds from the Curator; &
-advise any other Department.

(3b) The Quaestor has the duties of:
-providing in-game information in his ‘office’ thread in order to facilitate the decision making process;
-post polls on matters related to his portfolio;
-ensuring the efficient use of resources;
-ensuring the effective flow of energy credits for the faction; &
-provide orders to the Overseer prior to the turnchat.

Article 13 [Department of Science](DISCOVER)
(1) The Department of Science oversees the advancement of research.
(2) The department head of the Department of Science shall be referred to as Quaesitor.

(3a) The Quaesitor has the right to:
-issue research orders to the Overseer;
-issue lab construction orders (i.e. buildings that provide a bonus to science);
-advise the Commissioner of Foreign Relations on the trade of technology with other factions;
-request the allocation of more energy credits towards research;
-request builds from the Curator; &
-advise any other Department.

(3b) The Quaesitor has the duties of:
-providing in-game information in his ‘office’ thread in order to facilitate the decision making process;
-post polls on matters related to his portfolio; &
-provide orders to the Overseer prior to the turnchat.

Article 14 [Department of Social Engineering]
(BUILD)(DISCOVER)(EXPLORE)(CONQUOR)
(1) The Department of Social Engineering oversees the molding of the society of the faction.
(2) The department head of the Department of Social Engineering shall be referred to as Magna Frater.

(3a) The Magna Frater has the right to:
-issue orders changing the social engineering settings to the Overseer; &
-advise any other Department.

(3b) The Magna Frater has the duties of:
-providing in-game information in his ‘office’ thread in order to facilitate the decision making process;
-post polls on matters related to his portfolio; &
-provide orders to the Overseer prior to the turnchat.

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Old July 26, 2003, 05:02   #2
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Section 2b encourages turn chats. However, I found them to breed many of our in game mistakes. There should be preturn chats scheduled ahead of the turn. I've found this reduces the number of mistakes and more people have the oppurtunity to point out problems with the next turn.

Also how is the overseer linked to the deputies? I think it would be helpful if you showed some kind of flowchart showing how everything job relates.
Are the Councils another name for the deputies? Are the department heads deputies or councils?

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Also you forgot the minister of propaganda.

We should make writing and editing Pravda a full time job too?

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Turn chats still need to be held, no question. Things just need to be better planned out beforehand.

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Old July 26, 2003, 11:45   #5
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The main problem is people fall into the trap of thinking they can wait until the turn chat to voice their opinion. I haven't managed to get a single pre-turn chat working, because everyone thinks they can do it at the turn chat. That doesn't give much time for the ideas to be considered.

Also turn chats slow down the moves, and recently it has been difficult finding people that aren't busy to do the turn chat with.

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My personal opinion is that preturn chat could be nice, but not necessary. We have this private forum so people can get on and voice their opinions at a time of their convenience. People do not need a set time when everybody is together to present their thoughts. However, turn chat is indispensible. This is when the actions takes place, whatever decisions were made prior get to be excuted. Of course we cannot do it in different times for different people because the turn can only be played once. Have a turn chat will make sure whoever plays the turn do not overlook anything and do not make mistakes. At times of unexpected events happening, or when we expect something will happen but do not know what (such as the drones situation), it is important that more than one person will be present when any moves or decisions were made.

Comrade Kody's concern about people do not voice their opinion until the turn chat may be valid, we should encourage everybody to participate in the forum more. As for difficult in finding people to do the turn chat, I would respectively disagree to it. The last couple turns I have made every effort so that I won't miss the turn, such as checking the board every hour when possible, (it could be validated by the amount of spams I generated ) but I still miss the turn chat. I think the turn was played very shortly after it was delievered, and unfortunetaly it was during my sleeping time. I wonder why is it that we couldn't wait a little longer. We used to be able to do this. And when I participated in the turn chats, the turn chat wasn't that long anyway, since most moves are determined before hand. I am not asking I myself must be included in the turn chat because I might not be able to contribute much other than reminding people what should be done according to plan, etc. However I do feel that it is only prudent for the Hive that a turn chat is held whenever possible.
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Section 2b encourages turn chats. However, I found them to breed many of our in game mistakes. There should be preturn chats scheduled ahead of the turn. I've found this reduces the number of mistakes and more people have the oppurtunity to point out problems with the next turn.
I completely agree with your concerns, and pre-turn chats, though a benefit, I do not believe are a necessity. The department heads, as it clearly states in the constitution, are to post their recommendations on the boards before the turn chats are held, and any discussions of alternative ideas are also to be held on the boards. This ensures that all available information is present for when the turnchat comes, and that most decisions have already been made. I believe it to be a more prudent solution to the problems we've faced given the fact that with pre-turnchats we run the same risks are with turnchats, mistakes will be made and not all information will be at hand.

Though we should make an effort to organize pre-turnchats whenever possible.

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Also how is the overseer linked to the deputies? I think it would be helpful if you showed some kind of flowchart showing how everything job relates.
Comrade Tass made a very nice flowchart, but I lost it.

The Overseer essentially is the head of the Departments. Whenever there are conflicting orders given by the department heads the Overseer has to make the choice between these conflicting orders. They are on a whole responsible for all the Departments.

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Are the Councils another name for the deputies? Are the department heads deputies or councils?
Alright to explain this best there are 2 types of Deputies.

CCC deputies who are allowed to cast votes in the CCC.

People's Deputies which are all other elected government officials, the title is little more than honorary.

Councils are CCC deputies granted some of the powers of the Chairman (i.e. under the new system you would be a Council Comrade Kody since you have turn playing powers).

Department heads are not deputies since they're not elected but rater appointed by the CCC.
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Also you forgot the minister of propaganda.

We should make writing and editing Pravda a full time job too?

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Alright, I'll include it.
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The main problem is people fall into the trap of thinking they can wait until the turn chat to voice their opinion. I haven't managed to get a single pre-turn chat working, because everyone thinks they can do it at the turn chat. That doesn't give much time for the ideas to be considered.

Also turn chats slow down the moves, and recently it has been difficult finding people that aren't busy to do the turn chat with.

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That's why all government officials are to post their recommendations, any relevant information, and discussions on the turn before the turnchat.
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Now just to make this clear, if you want any changed or additions to the constitution please propose amendments or clauses, it will make things go much smoother.
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Another thing, the department head post requires members to be very active as all the decisions of the Hive will be made on the recomendations they make.

This shouldn't be too much of a problem hopefuly when the summer vacation comes to an end, but just so everyone's aware of the dedication required for these posts.

The other issue that has come to mind would be the usefulness of the People's Congress. Do we really need it. Despite the fact that it has been vested with more powers than the PAC (such as the power to actually determine in-game actions), it may become ornamental likes its predecessor.

So do we get rid of it, and hence eliminate all elections from the Human Hive, or do we keep it even if it becomes powerless and useless?
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Dammit, I like my useless position as head of the People's Advisory Council! It's my only claim to to something resemblining usefulness here!

Oh well. Other than a the previously-mentioned Minister of Information (or something to that effect), it sounds good.
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Will the Minister of Information not be the head of the Department of Information?
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Will the Minister of Information not be the head of the Department of Information?
Yes, though he will not be called the Minister of Information. I'll come up with a more creative name, as I have for the other department heads.

And Comrade Tass there are slight changes in the constitution that need to be implemented in the chart. Once the constitution has been completed I will issue another chart from you.
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Old July 27, 2003, 00:39   #16
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Oh and if everyone could state what positions they're interested in, it would help.
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I'd be interested in serving as magistrate, and perhaps as a member of the People's Congress.

As for the Department of Information, I'd make it an office under the Commsisioner of Foreign Relations. His job is usually posting news releases about us in the public forum, anyway. Besides, all the current departments deal with serious in-game matters. A Department of Information would deal with forum matters, and wouldn't be serious at all (reference: PRAVDA)
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A few changes need to happen that I mailed Tassadar with. Namely the CMC reports directly to the deputy chairman and the chairman, not the Ministry of Law, and there are no breakdowns within it other than there being a Marshal and then general's below him.

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I am intrested in almsot any postion that needs to be filled really.
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Good good... I will speak to Tass and more modifications will be made as per request.

A nomination thread will be posted when the new constitution has been implemented so just keep the positions you want in mind.
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