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Old July 28, 2003, 17:52   #1
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Is there any interest in this? I think it could be entertaining to square off against you guys, especially as we seem to be showing how we all play the game!

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Old July 28, 2003, 17:56   #2
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I would like that very much (at least as long as the same thing as with Race for the Prize doesn't happen).
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what happend to the race for the prize? and i am in....but i am going to loose big time
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Old July 29, 2003, 05:33   #4
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People dropped out all the time, being replaced umpteen times. Now the game isn't continuing anymore.
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Old July 29, 2003, 06:43   #5
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Well yeah, hopefully we won't be dropping out all the time, otherwise this may end up as less democracy game and more an autocracy game....

I'd like the PK's please.
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Old July 29, 2003, 16:23   #6
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pirates! pretty pretty please?
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Old July 29, 2003, 16:50   #8
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How about two Pirate factions?
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Old July 29, 2003, 18:53   #9
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or an all-aquatic game? (visit Rynn's Gallery for aquaticized versions of all the regular factions)
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oooh, those are fun. i did that a few times
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Old July 30, 2003, 04:24   #11
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all aquatic would be fun....
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Googlie, what changes did you make to those aquatized factions? Rynn's gallery says you added some facilities for instance.
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I would be interested, and all-aquatic would be an interesting switch.

Arr! Meet the Sea-borgs!
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ok so who is playing? and are we still doing this?
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If it's still going on, then I'll join in.
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Old August 7, 2003, 17:12   #17
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Of course I would like to join. I just though interest dropped since no one responded.
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Ahh so this is the reply that dropped, been getting loads of 500 server errors recently ...

Do we need a CMN or should one of us just start?
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Well I think we still need to decide the factions we're gonna use. But if we can choose out of Googlie's adapted set, I have a few concerns about balance. He gave the Consciousness a free skunkworks, the Drones a free naval yard ( ), the Believers rec commons, Gaians biology lab, Morgan energy bank, Spartans command center, and the PKs a free children's creche, along with a few other minor changes I sometimes don't understand. These changes are in the disadvantage of those factions who already had a free facility. Also the Pirates are still the original, now making them quite weak compared to Googlie's aquatic set. So there are a few things we might need to discuss, adapt the factions a little ourselves so they seem more balanced. (Or I could do a few proposals, and you guys could say whether you like them or not. )
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i like the last line you typed (yes i am lazy )
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I'll try to post a proposal tonight when I have more time.
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It turned out to be a long night.

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Maniac/Aquaticfacs.zip

Basically I worked from Googlie's set and deleted the free facilities and some other things (eg free sea colony pod for Spartans and PKs) he had given. On the other hand I added a few things myself eg free unity foil for the Spartans.
I changed three factions:

The Disciples I gave one free mineral on fungus.

For the Hackers I gave them a free probe cutter instead of a probe team (I added the probe cutter in my edited alphax.txt. I haven't tested if it works though). I also lessened their probe bonus from +2 to +1 to avoid the rollover bug. In return I gave them impunity for Knowledge, which seems a fitting SE choice for them.

The original Pirates had become quite weak compared to the all-aquatic set, so I boosted them with +1 Support and impunity for Power. A true warmonger's faction! They may again be too powerful now though.

As for the alphax.txt, it contains a probe cutter, a -1 instead of -2 industry penalty for Power SE, and halved chassis costs for foils and cruiser.

Disclaimer: I didn't test all these changes. I just threw together some files in a hurry tonight.
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I'll have a look at them and playtest this weekend, and give some comments (assuming Sunday afternoon isn't too late)

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