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Old August 13, 2003, 06:08   #31
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1 d4 Nf6
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4 e3 b6
5 Nge2 Bb7
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9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
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Old August 13, 2003, 19:03   #32
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Squish, squeeze, shuffle - now I remember why I never liked d-pawn openings.

1 d4 Nf6
2 c4 e6
3 Nc3 Bb4
4 e3 b6
5 Nge2 Bb7
6 a3 Be7
7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
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Old August 14, 2003, 01:55   #33
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1 d4 Nf6
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5 Nge2 Bb7
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9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
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1 d4 Nf6
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4 e3 b6
5 Nge2 Bb7
6 a3 Be7
7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5

If 15 ... Bxb5, 16 Rxb5. Off to work now.
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1 d4 Nf6
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3 Nc3 Bb4
4 e3 b6
5 Nge2 Bb7
6 a3 Be7
7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8


You're off to work, I'm off to bed.
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Can you post another pic? Looks interesting, but I'm too lazy to play it through.
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Old August 14, 2003, 06:09   #38
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I would, but the website with the applet, I made the last screenshot from, is down right now. Since I don't own a chess program, I can't post a pic now, unless somebody provides me with another opportunity.
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Squish, squeeze, shuffle - now I remember why I never liked d-pawn openings.
Ditto!

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5 Nge2 Bb7
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8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
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1 d4 Nf6
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7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 0-0 O-O
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1 d4 Nf6
2 c4 e6
3 Nc3 Bb4
4 e3 b6
5 Nge2 Bb7
6 a3 Be7
7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
17 Qc2

Sorry for not responding yesterday, I tried, but was so helluva tired, that I twice slept in over the board. Nothing but eight hours of sleep could fix that. I have a question. With what tool do you make your diagram pictures?
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Sorry for not responding yesterday, I tried, but was so helluva tired, that I twice slept in over the board. Nothing but eight hours of sleep could fix that. I have a question. With what tool do you make your diagram pictures?
No problem - I've been playing with servers upgrades etc. all day and had no access to a board or winboard. I'll play tomorrow morning my time, or tonight when I get home.

I use Winboard for the boards, and then snagit to capture the screen, then I crop to the board edge in Photoshop and run an automated script that reduces it to half size and converts it to a .gif Whole thing takes about two minutes.
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8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
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13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
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1 d4 Nf6
2 c4 e6
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4 e3 b6
5 Nge2 Bb7
6 a3 Be7
7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
17 Qc2 Ne8
18 Ne2

Thanks for the hint. I had forgotten about WinBoard, somehow the diagrams looked familiar though. I downloaded it now. The board size is an option, btw, you don't even have to scale it down.
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1 d4 Nf6
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4 e3 b6
5 Nge2 Bb7
6 a3 Be7
7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
17 Qc2 Ne8
18 Ne2 Ra6

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Thanks for the hint. I had forgotten about WinBoard, somehow the diagrams looked familiar though. I downloaded it now. The board size is an option, btw, you don't even have to scale it down.
Thanks, lol, I never even checked. I love the size descriptions, though.
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8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
17 Qc2 Ne8
18 Ne2 Ra6
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8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
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8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
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1 d4 Nf6
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5 Nge2 Bb7
6 a3 Be7
7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
11 Bd2 c5
12 bxa5 bxa5
13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
17 Qc2 Ne8
18 Ne2 Ra6
19 f4 f6
20 f5 Bd7
21 Nbc3 Nc7

Sorry, I thought this had posted earlier - I posted right when poly went down, and didn't notice 'til now my post hadn't made it.
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20 f5 Bd7
21 Nbc3 Nc7
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14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
17 Qc2 Ne8
18 Ne2 Ra6
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20 f5 Bd7
21 Nbc3 Nc7
22 Rb2 Be8
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5 Nge2 Bb7
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7 d5 e5
8 e4 d6
9 Ng3 Nbd7
10 b4 a5
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13 Rb1 Ba6
14 Bd3 Nb6
15 Nb5 Bc8
16 O-O O-O
17 Qc2 Ne8
18 Ne2 Ra6
19 f4 f6
20 f5 Bd7
21 Nbc3 Nc7
22 Rb2 Be8
23 Rfb1 Nca8
24 Ng3 Qd7

Despite your huge advantage in space (obvious why 7 ... e5 isn't in the books, lol), it's starting to look fairly drawish to me. I just can't see a way for you to break in without a lot of risk, and I certainly can't see a way for me to break out without a lot of risk and maybe some slack play on your part, which isn't likely.
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17 Qc2 Ne8
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22 Rb2 Be8
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24 Ng3 Qd7
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