View Poll Results: Which movie do you think will do the best?
Gladiator 2 (may never come out) 2 6.90%
Alexander (De Caprio is Alexander the Great) 2 6.90%
Alexander the Great (directed by Ridley Scott, starring Colin Ferrill) 4 13.79%
Tripoli (budget- 120 million plus, Russell Crowe) 0 0%
Troy (Brad Pitt) 0 0%
Hannibal (Vin Deisel is the Great leader) 5 17.24%
A historic epic currently unkown to the Public 4 13.79%
Banana the Conquerer 12 41.38%
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Old August 10, 2003, 19:28   #1
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Movie industry bombarding us with historic epics
Which historic movie is worth watching when/if they make it to the big screen
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non is worth the bother, i and i personally object violently to hollywood getting its filthy mits on stuff like the illiad, and even worse, the people starring in them!!

Stanley Kubrick's Homeric Illiad - WOuld love to see that

Fritz Lang's Oddessey - would kick arse

and i am sure orson wells would kick arse with alexander.

anyone alive coulndn't doit, exceptions would be european unkowns
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The one which gets the best Critics probably.

Aside from that I agree with Monolith.
I rather like Samurai epics, like the works from Akira Kurosawa and would see it in the Cinema, if it is able to recreate the atmosphere, which Kurosawa was able to create (thinking of Ran, Kagemusha or Heaven and Earth [the latter one isn´t from Kurosawa, but it is somehow comes near to the films Kurosawa made [although Kurosawas Films were usually more depressing and he was better in showing the Viewer, that the Battlefields where places of great Slaughter]])
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wow, that's quite a list of epic pictures. I can't wait.

I think that both Hannibal and the Russel Crowe vehical will do quite well.

Why didn't you list the new Mel Gibson story of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ?
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And don't forget that Master & Commander is coming out as well, a naval historical epic. You have to add both that and the Last Samurai to the list bringing the total to... 6, not counting Gladiator 2 which I don't think will come out, and Hannibal which I doubt the existence of. That's ALOT.
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I think AoG with Colin Farrel will be pretty good. Wonder how the Alex with Leo will do. You can bet that both, coming out in such proximity to each other, will NEVER escape being compared to the 'other Alexander'.
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FYI, the AoG with Colin Farrel is being directed by Oliver Stone. The AoG with DeCaprio is being directed by Baz Luhrmann.

DeCaprio is an excellent actor, although there have been a lot of movies that he has been in that I haven't liked. I think that will have wider appeal, although it is being done later, IIRC. Apparently, both are going to feature the homosexual angle prominently.
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looks like we got a new generation of Charlton Hestons...
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The Mel Gibson produced movie is said to be magnificent.
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Leo DiCaprio as Alexander will be great (pardon the pun), as will the Mel Gibson movie, and Hannibal sounds intruiging.
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what the hell is AoG?

and what is this nonsense about alexander being gay? he had several wives and had a son! i know the greeks were kind of homosexual in general but should that really warrant mentioning it in the movie and making alexander seem truly gay, as if different than most greeks? in other words, it would be a dis-service to history if people thought alexander was truly homosexual rather than the greek-style bisexuality.
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yaa,

I should have added the Jesus movie with mel gibson. It is highly controversial yet very few people have seen it. I will probably watch it out of curiosity.

I want to see a movie about THOR, I hear his son is somewhere around here.
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the Jews are protesting the Mel Gibson movie because it paints the jews in a bad light.

But they were responsible for Jesus being killed weren't they? Or were they just indirectly responsible?

I don't know **** about religion.
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No, I disagree - I'd say you know a lot more about religion than you're letting on.
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Maybe he had a really good publicist.
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Tripoli sounds interesting. what is this about, and which tripoli are we talking about?
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non is worth the bother, i and i personally object violently to hollywood getting its filthy mits on stuff like the illiad, and even worse, the people starring in them!!

Stanley Kubrick's Homeric Illiad - WOuld love to see that
Does anyone else think The Andy-Man is contradicting himself?

As for me, after hollywood gets its hands on a great story, it can no longer be considered either great, or a story. I haven't watched a movie in years and am much happier for it.
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what the hell is AoG?

and what is this nonsense about alexander being gay? he had several wives and had a son! i know the greeks were kind of homosexual in general but should that really warrant mentioning it in the movie and making alexander seem truly gay, as if different than most greeks? in other words, it would be a dis-service to history if people thought alexander was truly homosexual rather than the greek-style bisexuality.
So he made a few smart political marriages and ensured that there was someone to carry on the dynasty. Even conquering the known world doesn't mean you're confident enough to pick out curtains with your studly manlover at your side.
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Looks to be a good year of films for the alternative lifestyled among us. Two about Alexander the Great, a sister that managed to conquer the known world (that just screams compensation for a distant father), a film about Kleopatra, the original diva, and Hannibal stars Vin Diesel. Frankly I'll take any excuse to squeeze that man into a tight leather costume and watch him wield his big sword.
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The Hannibal as Vin Diesel seems to bother me. Just because Hannibal was from Africa doesn't mean he was black. Many in North Africa are just as white as the Southern Europeans (if not more so). Secondly, Vin Diesel does not seem to be the actor that can pull off an epic like that one (unless they totally make it some action flick without any real plot )
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And when can we see those movies? I only heard of the diCaprio thing. Are the others in the make, or only plans at this stage?
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We should make an epic poly movie as well.
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Hannibal was white, although his complection is up to speculation. Race doesn't appear to have been important during that time. His troops were about 1/3rd Arab African and 1/3rd black African, IIRC. Quite a motley crew.

Hannibal was a great general, not your Conan the Barbarian type. Vin Diesel strikes me as the Conan the Barbarian type.
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you know about how the greeks had strong homosexuality tendencies right? wasnt that all alexander had? he was some noble man's little 'apprentice' who got molested and then, like all greek men, had some male lovers... but thats what all greeks did so alexander was no more gay than all the other greeks... if these movies show alexander as gay, they better make it clear that all greeks were doing the same thing.

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Vin Diesal is black?!
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and the carthaginians were lebanese who mixed in with the local berbers and numidians and also mixed with the local populations (and former greek colonists) in their colonies. their african empire only existed along the coasts. i doubt any percentage of their army was dark-skinned african.
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(unless they totally make it some action flick without any real plot )
God forbid that Hollywood ever take history and turn it into a mindless action film...
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