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Old August 12, 2003, 19:38   #1
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Circumcision
Being brought up Jewish, I was obviously circumsised. Used to consider it mutilation, I was only 8 days old but after reading about the health benefits, and that it is an evolutionary dead end like the appendix, I'm not so sure.

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Old August 12, 2003, 19:39   #2
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Supposedly, circumcision slightly lowers the chance of penis cancer and infections.
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Old August 12, 2003, 19:40   #3
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Aagh, another circumcision thread!
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Old August 12, 2003, 19:41   #4
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Not ones that I've seen... except a brief spamfest on one of my previous ones but hey I really wanna know!!!
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well, since they did it to me before i was sentient, being a baby and all, i don't really have an opinion on it.
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I believe you're sentient as a baby... we have the mental capacity of a spider monkey then, which are thought to be conscious.

Besides, few would argue that babies are conscious, surely?
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I never felt bad about it until I heard you guys at Poly say how good it feels to have that extra friction. I really feel I'm missing out on some great sex . Because when I'm wearing a condom (which I always do for intercourse) I really can't feel ****. I can't help but think if I had a foreskin I would enjoy having sex while wearing a condom more.

I feel so mutilated

but I do think they look better . Not that I really go around looking at men's penises. But you can't help but see them in porn movies.
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Old August 12, 2003, 19:58   #8
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Diss: I can live without the friction, after all, the more we are desensitised, the longer one lasts. Great sex is all about the woman anyway, for us, physically its not much better than "going solo".

Fairly safe assumption that it makes us bigger too! Like the foreskin can act as a constrictor, preventing width!
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ok, well, maybe i was sentient.

but i have no memory of the time, and making love still feels quite exceptionally good, so whatever.
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I don't think there's any justification for it.
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Is it better done as a baby, or is it ok at any age?
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i figure as a baby, since at an older age, particularly after puberty, you're probably much more likely to fight to the death anybody with a knife coming for your pecker.
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Diss: I can live without the friction, after all, the more we are desensitised, the longer one lasts.
Great theory when you're 15
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I don't think there's any justification for it.
This basically sums it up..
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Great theory when you're 15
Well its logical really, with some of the nerve endings removed, I will always last that bit longer that I would have had they still been there. Assuming I hadn't learned to control them on top of what I have, but hey lets keep things simple.
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It's not only the nerve endings removed btw, but since it's top is no longer covered and thus less protected, it will hmm will become rougher * --> less sensitive---> longer fun (for the girl )

* I can't find the exact word, what's the thing you get on your hands when doing alot of manual labour? well, abit like that
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Health benefits. Sure if you don't ever wash your penis while showering. If no other reasons (like religious) are there, leave the peepee alone.
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There has been some evidence that circumcision may be partially protective against contracting the HIV virus. Definitive studies are currently in progress.
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Partially, maybe... risky words. I'd just go with the good old condom. And as for other ways to catch HIV, it doesn't help anyway.
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How exactly would this work, I really fail to see the connection here????
( unless you're talking some divine intervention )
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"It's not only the nerve endings removed btw, but since it's top is no longer covered and thus less protected, it will hmm will become rougher * --> less sensitive---> longer fun (for the girl"

Ah yes but less sensitivity = less fun for the guy!
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The inside of the foreskin has very absorbant tissue or something, apparently its very suceptible to viruses etc, or something like that.
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Ah yes but less sensitivity = less fun for the guy!
But you last longer, resulting in more fun in the long run .
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How exactly would this work, I really fail to see the connection here????
( unless you're talking some divine intervention )
He's a doctor so I assume he has some idea what he's talking about. I'm not sure "Because God will protect you" is a part of his reasoning.

Anyway, I am uncut and perfectly happy to be so. I see no reason or evidence for anyone to be circumcised, although I'm not fanatical about it. If conclusive evidence is produced in the next few years that it is beneficial I will change my opinion.

FWIW, I have never met nor heard about a single person in this country who has ever had any health problems whatsoever related to the presence of his foreskin. My unscientific empirical and anecdotal study reveals no ill effects.
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Is it better done as a baby, or is it ok at any age?
The recovery period is longer at older ages, and it is generally believed its more painful at older ages, (though who has asked a baby how painful it is?) This is the principle response to those who say dont do to babies, let men decide after theyre 18. Basically youve taken away the chance to have it done when its easiest.
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Ah yes but less sensitivity = less fun for the guy!
But you last longer, resulting in more fun in the long run .
Exactly. More pleasure for the ladies is the key. If you get a reputation (whether public or private) with the fairer gender for being good in the sack then, on average, you will get more sex. Anything that helps that is a good thing I suppose.
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They did it to me as a baby. I think that, at the time, my parents would have had to specifically tell the hospital NOT to do it, otherwise they just did it.

I've never really thought about it, to be honest with you.

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