European heat wave kills thousands

[Ecthy]

they're used to deal with it even. btw, I can deal with heat pretty well, I just ignore it.

and I still keep wearing t-shirts under my shirts, to prevent sweaty marks in my armpits. beauty over comfort.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
You never get used to it, you just deal with it.

You do get used to it, though seasonal changes in temperate zones make it harder. besides, there is also an infrastrcuture of temperature control, mainly AC. Europeans are underequiped when it come to it.

[Az]

Yep, you do get used to it.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Temperature range in Texas populated areas (excluding unihabited mountain tops and deserts with greater extremes) goes for -30*C to 47*C, try getting used to that. The upper end would be simlar to several inhabited parts of Israel.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Well, France is working on a solution to their persion problem. Have the family lock the old folks up in a attic room during an August heat wave with a few baguets and a bottle of Algerian wine, cash the last pension check, and go to the beach while they bake to death.

This is really inhumane
If you let your old people bake to death, at least give them something decent to drink !
However, this is the real problem that you're showing. Old people are forgotten by their families more often than not. A few phone calls, a few visits as year, and that's the ticket for most families

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Temperature range in Texas populated areas (excluding unihabited mountain tops and deserts with greater extremes) goes for -30*C to 47*C, try getting used to that.

I'm sure -30C is typical winter temperature in Texas

[DanielXY]

If you dont care about someone you shouldnt pretend you do. If you care enough for a few visits a year, fine, do that. Relative or not doesnt mean a thing...

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Combat Ingrid I'm sure -30C is typical winter temperature in Texas

Nope, it a record low temp in an inhabited area (town of Seminole in the panhandle plains). It may be a more common one on top of the some of the mountains.

[VetLegion]

If I go to trouble of making and raising children, I expect to live like a king when I get old and depend on them for my drugs and alcohol

If they wanted to lock me up and go on holidays, well think again mr. flat tyres

[The Mad Monk]

Deserts can get hideously cold at night, regardless of latitude. The lack of humidity and cloud cover mean that heat loss to space is maximized.

Texas has a lot of desert.

[Lefty Scaevola]

"Texas has a lot of desert."


Including mountains in deserts, they get even colder.

[Dis]

-30 C

sorry, don't believe it

Deserts do NOT get that cold at night. At least not in Arizona, California, or Nevada.

You might see it get down to about 0 or 10 degrees F at best (or worst).

[Ecthy]

they're talking social cold, Diss... think Las Vegas

[The Mad Monk]

I found this on another site:

February 8th, 1933, 23 below zero, Seminole, Texas, still the coldest it has ever been in Texas!

http://www.ocs.orst.edu/reports/seneca.html

Since everything else on that site is in degrees F, that number probably is, too -- which makes for -30.56 degrees C.

Of course, that is the lowest officially recorded temperature.

[The Mad Monk]

Here's a table of coldest temps by state, in case anyone's interested:

State by state low temperature records
State         Temp.       Date            Station        Elevation
              ( F)                                         (feet)
Alabama        -27    Jan. 30, 1966     New Market           760
Alaska         -80    Jan. 23, 1971     Prospect Creek     1,100
Arizona        -40    Jan.  7, 1971     Hawley Lake        8,180
Arkansas       -29    Feb. 13, 1905     Pond               1,250
California     -45    Jan. 20, 1937     Boca               5,532
Colorado       -61    Feb.  1, 1985     Maybell            5,920
Connecticut    -32    Feb. 16, 1943     Falls Village        585
Delaware       -17    Jan. 17, 1893     Millsboro             20
Florida        - 2    Feb. 13, 1899     Tallahassee          193
Georgia        -17    Jan. 27, 1940     N. Floyd County    1,000
Hawaii          12    May  17, 1979     Mauna Kea         13,770
Idaho          -60    Jan. 18, 1943     Island Park Dam    6,285
Illinois       -36    Jan.  5, 1999     Congerville          722
Indiana        -36    Jan. 19, 1994     New Whiteland        785
Iowa           -47    Feb.  3, 1996*    Elkader              770
Kansas         -40    Feb. 13, 1905     Lebanon            1,812
Kentucky       -34    Jan. 28, 1963     Cynthiana            684
Louisiana      -16    Feb. 13, 1899     Minden               194
Maine          -48    Jan. 19, 1925     Van Buren1           458
Maryland       -40    Jan. 13, 1912     Oakland            2,461
Massachusetts  -35    Jan. 12, 1981     Chester              640
Michigan       -51    Feb.  9, 1934     Vanderbilt           785
Minnesota      -60    Feb.  2, 1996     Tower              1,430   
Mississippi    -19    Jan. 30, 1966     Corinth              420
Missouri       -40    Feb. 13, 1905     Warsaw               700
Montana        -70    Jan. 20, 1954     Rogers Pass        5,470
Nebraska       -47    Feb. 12, 1899     Camp Clarke        3,700
Nevada         -50    Jan.  8, 1937     San Jacinto        5,200
New Hampshire  -47    Jan. 29, 1934     Mt. Washington     6,288
New Jersey     -34    Jan.  5, 1904     River Vale            70
New Mexico     -50    Feb.  1, 1951     Gavilan            7,350
New York       -52    Feb. 18, 1979*    Old Forge          1,720
North Carolina -34    Jan. 21, 1985     Mt. Mitchell       6,525
North Dakota   -60    Feb. 15, 1936     Parshall           1,929
Ohio           -39    Feb. 10, 1899     Milligan             800
Oklahoma       -27    Jan. 18, 1930     Watts                958
Oregon         -54    Feb. 10, 1933*    Seneca             4,700
Pennsylvania   -42    Jan.  5, 1904     Smethport     est. 1,500
Rhode Island   -25    Feb.  5, 1996     Greene               425
South Carolina -19    Jan. 21, 1985     Caesars Head       3,100
South Dakota   -58    Feb. 17, 1936     McIntosh           2,277
Tennessee      -32    Dec. 30, 1917     Mountain City      2,471
Texas          -23    Feb.  8, 1933*    Seminole           3,275
Utah           -69    Feb.  1, 1985     Peter's Sink       8,092
Vermont        -50    Dec. 30, 1933     Bloomfield           915
Virginia       -30    Jan. 22, 1985     Mountain Lake      3,870
Washington     -48    Dec. 30, 1968     Mazama             2,120
                                        Winthrop           1,755 
West Virginia  -37    Dec. 30, 1917     Lewisburg          2,200
Wisconsin      -54    Jan. 24, 1922     Danbury              908
Wyoming        -66    Feb.  9, 1933     Riverside          6,650
*Also on earlier dates at the same or other places.
1 The low temperature of -55 at Allagash, Maine, in January of1999 was found to be 13 degrees too cold. The previous record of-48 at Van Buren still stands.
Source: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, National Climatic Data Center

[Dis]

whoa!

-50 in Nevada

That has to be up in the Sierras somwhere. San Jacinto sounds like it is in California though.

[mrmitchell]

(*cough*bump*cough*)

This has been a very mild summer for Arkansas. Camden never broke the 100 mark, and about half the summer, the high didn't even go past 90.

Just saw that data and thought this thread might be interested in it

(Arkansas cold and France hot? It's global warming! Noooooo!!!)