August 24, 2003, 05:32
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I concur.
Well, at least Manchester United didn't lose. Then we'd really be complaining, wouldn't we?
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August 24, 2003, 05:51
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Yep - the fact is, only those who lose complain. That's the reason why Man Utd are perceived to get the benefit of refs; bad decisions against us don't tend to matter so much.
I've long been saying IRL that Man Utd don't get as many penalties as they should at Old Trafford - due to refs trying to be "strong" and resist crowd pressure; even if by resisting it, that means an incorrect decision. 
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August 24, 2003, 06:00
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utd. not getting enough penalties  for a little comparison, how much of van nistelrooy's goals last season were penalties, and how many did anelka score at city? 
pomey are starting well, a win and a draw against city away, good effort. wolves need to buck their ideas up though, 4-0 at home!
shame about yeovil losing at orient as well 
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August 24, 2003, 06:07
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Now let's compare amount of penalties not per game (as teams as Utd are obviously going to get more), but number of penalties given as a percentage of penalties that should have given (I know every now and then this can be debatable).
I remember saying it 10+ times last season during games, and while I might be a biased observer, a Norwich supporter who I drank with tended to agree. It seemed like I'd say everytime Man Utd were on TV.
Hopefully this season will be different.
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August 24, 2003, 07:01
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Bods
Who's that clown who sent off Hypia? hasn't he give you something like 6 pens in 4 games? or 4 in 2 , summat like that?
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August 24, 2003, 07:26
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Reds, like I said, no point looking at penalties per game stats. They say very little.
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August 24, 2003, 07:36
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I know I was just asking the name, I went to the Valencia game pre-season and he was the ref there
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August 24, 2003, 10:53
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well yeah bods, every team doesn't get penalties it should, and sometimes it goes the other way (especially if you have franny jeffers playing for you  ), but i was just saying united seem to get more penalties given than most...
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August 24, 2003, 13:05
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well i'm very happy, 4-0 to arsenal at the riverside, can't ask for much more 
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August 24, 2003, 13:51
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Lower to mid table sides seem to bother little when playing Arsenal, yet it's their game of the season when playing Man Utd.. 
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August 25, 2003, 05:14
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It's called "history".
If each trophy over the last 10 years represented humanitarian aid, Manchester United could end world hunger.
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August 25, 2003, 06:46
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Originally posted by Frozzy
It's called "history".
If each trophy over the last 10 years represented humanitarian aid, Manchester United could end world hunger.
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10 years is 'history'?
'18 and 4 Forever in our shadow'
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August 25, 2003, 10:35
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Originally posted by Boddington's
Lower to mid table sides seem to bother little when playing Arsenal, yet it's their game of the season when playing Man Utd..
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you mean like leeds
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August 25, 2003, 10:58
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Yep.
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