September 15, 2003, 14:59
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There was a lot of talk about this a year or more ago. I think MarkG stated that those who used pop-up blockers were keeping Apolyton from generating revenue.
The situation may have changed since then, but I'm pretty sure it hasn't.
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Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark
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September 15, 2003, 15:30
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Then when you see the dialogue box asking you to allow permission to run ActiveX script, say no. About 99% of the time, you don't miss anything.
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Already done. 
Thanks anyways. 
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September 17, 2003, 12:38
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Dan, just a heads-up. I just got tagged again by Gator while visiting Apolyton. Did you turn on a certain advertiser today?
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September 17, 2003, 12:42
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Originally posted by Wittlich
Dan, just a heads-up. I just got tagged again by Gator while visiting Apolyton. Did you turn on a certain advertiser today?
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That's a personal question. 
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September 17, 2003, 15:46
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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Originally posted by Wittlich
Dan, just a heads-up. I just got tagged again by Gator while visiting Apolyton. Did you turn on a certain advertiser today?
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Hi Wittlich.
No, no advertisements that we turned off last Thursday have yet been re-activated. Did you have any other browser windows open at the time the Gator pop-up appeared, besides one or more displaying/interacting with pages on Apolyton? Either way, it is possible that "Gator"'s appearance is the result of its introduction at another time and/or by other means. I'm not dismissing your claim, but rather putting forth other possibilities.
Do you have/have you run spyware/malware detection and removal software recently (e.g. "Ad-adware" from http://www.lavasoftusa.com or "SpyBot Search & Destroy" from http://security.kolla.de)? I would run one of these programs for the first time or again, depending upon your history (or not) with either of these programs, and see what impact if any and for how long it has. I personally use "Ad-aware" Standard Edition.
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September 17, 2003, 16:17
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Holy crap, sorry Dan. I forgot to tell you too. I had Gator yesterday. I was kinda busy at the time, so I just clicked no, and continued with 'poly. I had absolutely no other browser windows open at the time, so it had to have come from a poly ad.
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Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark
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September 17, 2003, 18:00
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Thanks for the quick reply Dan.
Yes, I use SpyBot religiously and I also clear my cookies everyday (except for the main Apolyton cookie  ).
When Gator occured, I only had the one Apolyton browser window open...however, you've made a valid point - I (might) have visited another site prior to visiting Apolyton and hense didn't clear my cookies prior to my Apolyton visit ... so there is a possibility that it wasn't triggered by your site. I will keep better track my actions in the future and let you know if it happends again.
EDIT: Cute DrSpike, cute. 
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September 17, 2003, 20:34
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Assuming that Gator uses ActiveX, is there any way that the makers of the ad could set a delay before the ad actually appears? That would be an irritating way of disguising where the ad actually comes from.
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September 17, 2003, 20:53
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I also got Gator on a public computer today. It left a bar open on the taskbar for about a minute or so after saying no to the Gator download.
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September 17, 2003, 21:10
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It does that to me everytime it pops up.
 ACK!
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September 18, 2003, 00:33
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You guys want free entertainment, free forums, free browsing and yet you want it all FREE. Somehow your going to have to either start paying for an apolyton subscription, or just put up with spyware. One or the other. So stop complaining like babies, get Spybot and a PU blocker and off you go.
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September 18, 2003, 02:01
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faded:
I have no problems with a subscription, if it means not having to deal with Gator popups. I believe that I have said so many times.
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September 18, 2003, 03:49
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faded: I'm not sure that I care for the tone in your post. Seriously. If it was an attempt at irony or sarcasm, it was at best an extremely poor attempt.
And FYI, I do use spybot and ZoneAlrm Pro. But I still want Gator gone. Why? I don't like the company, their policies or their software. Things like these including SPAM should be fought whereever and whenever they are discovered here at 'poly.
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Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark
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September 18, 2003, 05:35
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Don't feed the troll chaps.
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September 18, 2003, 09:11
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Besides the constant pop-ups (every time I click a link) just got a new request to install something called "web gift search" or some such bullshit. 
I'll correct the name later when it comes up again (and I'm sure it will).
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September 21, 2003, 09:00
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We still have it. Gator, that is. This time, I got no ad, though. Only the security warning.
I am 100% sure that it came from Apolyton. I have had no other websites open today. And I cleared my cookies just this morning.
See attached image:
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Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark
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September 21, 2003, 11:39
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Originally posted by geeslaka
Assuming that Gator uses ActiveX, is there any way that the makers of the ad could set a delay before the ad actually appears? That would be an irritating way of disguising where the ad actually comes from.
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I don't think so. The script has to start running to set the delay. So as long as you keep the scripts out, you have no problems.
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September 21, 2003, 17:53
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 And the hunt for the offending advertiser continues ...
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September 21, 2003, 23:31
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You can try changing between regular and special styles. If you don't get it using a regular style, the offender is from a popup ad.
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(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
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September 22, 2003, 00:08
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I just got gator going from a demo game private forum to the main forum index.
dictionary.com is open in the back ground, but hasn't been touched for several hours.
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September 22, 2003, 04:59
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The demogamers use too many long words?
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September 22, 2003, 12:06
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Got the Gator "open on task bar" edition. My Windows NT Task Manager listed it ("Running" -- ominously)
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http://webpdp.gator.com/v3/webpdp_v3...c=HIC_RydiumNT - Microsoft Internet Explorer
Since I'm in a corporate environment (thus Win NT, MSIE, and no popup blockers) for virtually all my Poly time, I'm stuck with these annoyances. I appreciate any efforts Dan can muster to minimize or endit re Gator, but I consider it to be the price of T1 speed and no out-of-pocket Web access cost.
Which is why I haven't complained before.
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September 24, 2003, 19:59
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Another screenshot with our dear companion - Gator.
By the way people, stay clear of Gator and under no circumstances click Yes. You won't be able to get rid of Gator afterwards.
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September 25, 2003, 14:52
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I've gotten Gator twice today.
Dan please indicate if there is any information that I could provide that you can use in your quest to rid Apolyton of the evil Gator ad.
Asmodean
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Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark
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September 26, 2003, 10:17
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I haven't seen a Gator message at work for quite some time now. Odd...
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September 26, 2003, 11:28
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Well Gator is still alive and well ... I just go bit by it again. Time to clean up my system again. 
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September 26, 2003, 11:32
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Do you have trouble saying no?
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September 26, 2003, 11:55
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He may have 
But Gator writes to the registry, whether you say yes or no. It doesn't install itself, but it writes to your registry.
I got it twice yesterday, and once so far today
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Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark
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September 26, 2003, 12:56
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Got one this morning...
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September 26, 2003, 13:24
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Just got one.
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