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Old August 22, 2003, 04:11   #1
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Spyware?!
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It's my understanding that Apolyton has a "service" of sorts that, if you're on the site's front page, will scan a PC for any spyware and, if found, alert the user about it.

Here's my question: Does this service function anywhere else except on 'Poly's front page? I'm curious because I had a strange pop-up ad appear while I was surfing the forums, claiming that the owners of the site (Apolyton) had a service that detected spyware on my *Macintosh,* but then the link took me to a PC-only site that was selling spyware-removal software (albeit it did have a free trial version).

I've talked to some other Mac folks and they're not aware of any spyware that targets Macs. Most of such software is aimed at the PC crowd (for obvious reasons ... a lot more PCs than Macs out there).

Anyway, I did end up deleting some cookies, clearing my browser cache and so on.

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Old August 22, 2003, 05:09   #2
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Only on the Poly front-page. What you clicked on was most likely an advertisement.
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I get another similar ad about protecting your PC now. It says things that aren't strictly true. It's annoying, but I guess it's easy to prey on the worries of computer users.
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Being a minority and behind a firewall, I have much less to worry about. Besides, I have better ways to waste my time.
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An advertisement ... I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but it sure as hell made itself look like it was sanctioned by 'Poly.

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I'm not really surprised. Ad makers are evil. They do not care what happens when you see their ad, so long as you see it and buy their product. They do not care if the product is good, so long as it is bought. Ads have caused me to stop watching tv and listening to the radio. When the internet reaches that level of pollution, I shall stop using it too.
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Go to the front page or download adware
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adware = spyware.

Gatekeeper is on a Mac...

/me doesn't know any anti-spyware mac-products
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I did go to the front page and nothing popped up. How I wish I could remember the name of that offending advertiser ... I'd call up some of my colleagues in their area and check into the company's criminal history and see if maybe a nasty investigative story could be done on 'em.

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hi ,

spyware can be stopped , plenty of soft and hardware out there , for PC and MAC , ......

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Yeah...goto www.lavasoft.de (they have other sites, but that's the one that I can remember) and download ad-aware. That will take care of spyware for you. And contrary to some people's believes, Lavasoft do update their reference file regularly.

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adware = spyware.

Gatekeeper is on a Mac...

* Frozzy doesn't know any anti-spyware mac-products
I believe the two main programs to remove spyware from your machine are called Spybot and Adware.
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That aggravating "You have spyware on your PC!" ad popped up again. I don't know if it will help Dan or Markos out, but I went in and viewed the source, and this is what I got:

















It looks like there's some Web addresses in there, so maybe interested folks can check it out.

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Well, that's strange. It's not showing up.
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Sheesh. If you click on the "reply with quote" button on the post in which I attempted to show the source of the aggravating ad, you can see the source copy in the quote box window.
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That does it. I'm taking my marbles and going home for the night.
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Code:
(html>(head>(title>(/title>
(!-- Wednesday, August 20, 2003 -->
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(body leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">

(script language='JavaScript' type='text/javascript'>
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   if (!document.phpAds_used) document.phpAds_used = ',';
   document.write ("(" + "script language='JavaScript' type='text/javascript' src='");
   document.write ("http://64.106.205.230/ads//adjs.php?n=af3431ed");
   document.write ("&clientid=135");
   document.write ("&exclude=" + document.phpAds_used);
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(img src='http://64.106.205.230/ads//adview.php?clientid=135&n=af3431ed' border='0' alt=''>(/a>(/noscript>

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(img src="http://66.70.21.80/scripts/click.php?hid=60d39cbd7379dbb40e48&si=enigPU" width=1 height=1 border=0>
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The browser is running that code each time someone views this page. If you would be so kind as to edit it out...

EDIT: It seemed to run when I put it in code tags initially. Changed all <'s to ('s to prevent that. It kept redirecting my browser.
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I don't get it. You're saying that anyone who enters this thread now is having their browser redirected to the offending advertiser's Web site because I included the source information in one of my posts above?

Hmm ... I'm not being redirected anywhere. I'm missing something here, aren't I?

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It is what I thought, but obviously wrong. Sorry.

I did actually get mine redirecting everyone to the offending site though, until I fixed it up.
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hi ,

zonealarm from www.zonelabs.com and surfinguard from www.finjan.com are free , ......

and they tend to do a good job in keeping loads of spyware out , ......

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hi ,

zonealarm from www.zonelabs.com and surfinguard from www.finjan.com are free , ......

and they tend to do a good job in keeping loads of spyware out , ......

have a nice day
I don't think that's exactly correct.

Some firewalls, such as Zone Alarm, not only keeps outsiders at bay but also restricts access to the Net by processes on your computer. However, they won't stop anybody or anything from installing programs on your computer.

What that means is they won't stop spyware from being installed on your machine, but they can stop them from calling home.
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I run a series of programs each week to help me through these issues.

Window Washer - Daily
Spy Bot Search - Weekly
Win Doctor - Weekly
Defrager - Weekly

This way if I have been "got", I can find it, get rid of it, and keep my beast clean

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I don't think that's exactly correct.

Some firewalls, such as Zone Alarm, not only keeps outsiders at bay but also restricts access to the Net by processes on your computer. However, they won't stop anybody or anything from installing programs on your computer.

What that means is they won't stop spyware from being installed on your machine, but they can stop them from calling home.
You're wrong there, Urban Ranger. ZoneAlarm has an option to restrict code being run on your machine from websites you visit.

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I don't think that's exactly correct.

Some firewalls, such as Zone Alarm, not only keeps outsiders at bay but also restricts access to the Net by processes on your computer. However, they won't stop anybody or anything from installing programs on your computer.

What that means is they won't stop spyware from being installed on your machine, but they can stop them from calling home.
hi ,


it depends on the version and the way one uses it , it stops 99.99 when used to its full power , .... you can also combine those two together without any problem whatsoever , .....

some intresting sites ;

>>> www.panicware.com

>>> www.networkactiv.com/sniffer.html

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I believe the two main programs to remove spyware from your machine are called Spybot and Adware.
Actually, adware is a synonym for spyware. I believe the product you are referring to is "Ad-aware". "Adware" is the same as spyware
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Erhm... adware and spyware are two different things, Frozzy. Please don't mix up these two things.

Adware is computer software which is free to the user like freeware, but in exchange the program contains some form of advertising like a banner ad which is periodically refreshed (e.g. Opera and KaZaA Media Desktop), the user has to subscribe to some services or mailing lists (advertisements or information) or the software is tailor made for some branded purpose, and is thus free for the end-user as the program itself is an advert.

Spyware is malicious piece of code or an entire program or applet, which gathers information about the users' system, what websites they visit or other such online activities that may be of interest to advertisers in general and to target more efficiently their campaigns for better profit. Spyware can either have been copied onto the hard drive with the consent of the user or hidden as a cookie.
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