Comprehensive Feature List in Conquests - Page 6

Merepatra · October 22, 2003, 19:19

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Originally posted by Louis XXIV
Is this true for Statue of Zeus as well?

The others were obviously screenshots from the Mesopotamian Scenario, but this one appears to be the main game.

You are correct, the Statue of Zeus screenshot was taken from the main game.

The_Aussie_Lurker · October 22, 2003, 19:26

Merepatra, whilst you are here and, as a fellow Aussie

, could you possibly tell me what the current status is in regards to editor flags for buildings! In particular, will it now be possible to give Small Wonders ANY of the flags that are currently available for Great Wonders? After PtW, all flags but 'Double Happiness' and 'Counts as X in Every City' had been made available for Small Wonders-but, for the sake of a Mod I want to do, I'm hoping that these flags have been made available too! If you don't personally have the answer to the question, could you please pass it on to someone at Firaxis? Any help you can give me on this matter would be very, VERY much appreciated

!!!

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

Spiffor · October 24, 2003, 15:23

Updated with the new info available on Gamespot (last Civ profiles)
There are fewer holes now

Myrddin · October 25, 2003, 06:56

The designer diary for the Fall of Rome Scenario implies that the 'enslavement' option allows a choice of unit produced depending on the unit doing the enslavement

eg a military unit attacks and wins a battle, enslaves and produces another military unit for the attacking side - some interesting possibilities

Spiffor · October 25, 2003, 08:06

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Originally posted by Myrddin
The designer diary for the Fall of Rome Scenario implies that the 'enslavement' option allows a choice of unit produced depending on the unit doing the enslavement

A designer diary for the Fall of Rome scenario? Where?

CiverDan · October 25, 2003, 08:18

I have a question about marshes. Can these be changed to another terrain type, like jungle to grassland? If not this is a uneless terrian. Then again, if fish is a bonus resource here, making it into grassland would seem a bit silly.

joncnunn · October 25, 2003, 11:03

Actually, I hoping that marshes can't be converted into other types; it would seem to be pointless to have another version of the jungle.

WarpStorm · October 25, 2003, 11:15

If you get a marsh start, you'll wish you had a jungle start.

Spiffor · October 25, 2003, 13:18

Updated again with the info on the Fall of Rome scenario. Added links to the designer diaries.

sabrewolf · October 27, 2003, 04:11

oh my oh my, i just saw the stats for the last 3 civs.

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Mayans:
Traits : Agr and Ind
UU: Javelin Thrower 2/2/1 cost 30

these seem to be gods! it's an expensive bowman (imho not a very useful unit because neither special offense not special defense), but with enslavement ability! which means early free workers if you dare to rush.
the traits are probably one of the most powerful combinations (i don't know how good industrial pays out now). i can imagine that this is a killer AI if the computer uses the javelin thrower enough!

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Portuguese:
Traits : Exp and Sea
UU: Carrack 2/2/4 cost 40

as someone stated earlier: getting ocean travel with astronomy (so 2-6 techs earlier which means 10-30 turns earlier) means domination to communications. good trading and beeing fortunate that the other continent is rich but behind in techs can be great! also the portuguese have a great advantage when picking out the best islands and unpopulated islands for conquest.

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Sumerians:
Traits : Agr and Sci
UU: Enkidu Warrior 1/2/1 cost 10

now this is basicly a very cheap spearman. great for sending off with your settlers (no need to research bronze working) and great with raging barbarians. traits: one of the strongest and one of the weakest, or differently said: one of the best ancient traits (other one expansionist) and one of the best industrial/modern traits (other one commercial).

Panag · October 29, 2003, 12:26

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Originally posted by Louis XXIV
Is this true for Statue of Zeus as well?

The others were obviously screenshots from the Mesopotamian Scenario, but this one appears to be the main game.

EDIT: I believe Knights Templar builds a Crusader (5.3.1) every so often.

hi ,

check the link below i sig for the screenshots

have a nice day

joncnunn · October 29, 2003, 22:37

Hum, I'm thinking that just surviving as the Netherlands in the WW II scenerio will be even tougher than winning as the American Indians in the Age of Discovery.

Panag · October 30, 2003, 08:13

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Originally posted by joncnunn
Hum, I'm thinking that just surviving as the Netherlands in the WW II scenerio will be even tougher than winning as the American Indians in the Age of Discovery.

hi ,

, well since the dutch where spread out over the whole world , that seems unlikely , ..... okay agreed they had not a lot of " power " but still , as a player one could maybe concentrate on survival , a couple actions here and there , ....

but in a game one does never now , if one can pull a victory with the neutral's in the CIV II WW II scen , well then seems almost anything possible , ......

have a nice day

Fried-Psitalon · October 30, 2003, 14:57

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Originally posted by joncnunn
Hum, I'm thinking that just surviving as the Netherlands in the WW II scenerio will be even tougher than winning as the American Indians in the Age of Discovery.

Actually, the Native Americans have a pretty good shot in AoD, depending on a few factors...

joncnunn · October 31, 2003, 17:41

Panag, I mean having any cities on the WW-II Pacific map at the end of that game if playing the Dutch; not their off-map possesions.

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Originally posted by panag

hi ,

, well since the dutch where spread out over the whole world , that seems unlikely , ..... okay agreed they had not a lot of " power " but still , as a player one could maybe concentrate on survival , a couple actions here and there , ....

but in a game one does never now , if one can pull a victory with the neutral's in the CIV II WW II scen , well then seems almost anything possible , ......

have a nice day

Panag · November 1, 2003, 13:46

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Originally posted by joncnunn
Panag, I mean having any cities on the WW-II Pacific map at the end of that game if playing the Dutch; not their off-map possesions.

hi ,

oh , dont worry , you shall still have some , .... but in what shape they are going to be is an other Q , ......

have a nice day

MrWhereItsAt · November 6, 2003, 20:00

For those of us stuck without C3C for a while yet, can someone please update this a bit? Even adding the readme would be fantastic.

The Rusty Gamer · November 6, 2003, 23:33

And tell us everything that's new in the editor - even some screenshots would be nice.

sabrewolf · November 7, 2003, 04:01

is it true that you can now define the exact victory rules.
eg. max. number of turns, needed victory points, percentage of population & world size for domination?
if so...

arty:

and a question about enslavement: can you only enslave other civ-units or will barbarians work too? if latter: looks like the maya will have to be played with raging barbarians

Merepatra · November 7, 2003, 04:33

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Originally posted by sabrewolf
is it true that you can now define the exact victory rules.
eg. max. number of turns, needed victory points, percentage of population & world size for domination?
if so...

arty:

and a question about enslavement: can you only enslave other civ-units or will barbarians work too? if latter: looks like the maya will have to be played with raging barbarians

Looks like you can

Under Game Limits in the Player Setup screen you can now change the number of turns, the number of cities that need to be eliminated for an Elimination win, the Culture point goals for both 1 City and Civ wide Cultural wins, the Domination win terrain and population goals, the number of Victory Points required for a VP win, and the number of Victory Points that you get for a long list of things.

And yes barbs can be enslaved too

G'Kar · November 7, 2003, 04:54

I've never played with raging barbs before (or anything close to it) but now there's a benefit to dealing with those pesky people.

sabrewolf · November 7, 2003, 05:57

merepatra!

thanks for the great news... now i wonder if the other rumours i heard are true too!

my all time biggest wish of civ3 was to get rid of the hardcoded stuff. a few things (eg. bomber range) were solved with the early patches. but customizing these finishing limits is paradise for scenario creators.

a further question about these limits:
can these be different for various civs? eg. in a real world mod the americans need 20% of the area to win, but russians need 30% and a smaller european nation 15% (because of the beginning differences)?

of for mods without maps: can you say that the tiny world culture aim is 25'000 whilst on huge it's 150'000?

anyway.... GREAT WORK!!! the more i hear the more itchy i'm getting

Stuie · November 7, 2003, 10:47

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Originally posted by sabrewolf a further question about these limits:
can these be different for various civs? eg. in a real world mod the americans need 20% of the area to win, but russians need 30% and a smaller european nation 15% (because of the beginning differences)?

The area/population settings are global in the editor, not Civ specific.

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of for mods without maps: can you say that the tiny world culture aim is 25'000 whilst on huge it's 150'000?

This would be possible by creating different scenarios for different size maps. You wouldn't be able to do this in a single scenario file.