Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old August 20, 2004, 14:53   #31
GePap
Emperor
 
GePap's Avatar
 
Local Time: 01:53
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: of the Big Apple
Posts: 4,109
talk about coming back from the dead here.
__________________
If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake :(
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
GePap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20, 2004, 16:28   #32
MORON
Prince
 
Local Time: 15:53
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 346
What is fun to me is control and choice. Choice as in mutiple approaches and solution to every problem. If I have to REX/ICS in every game, it is not fun. If I have to tech to monarch 1st every game, it is not that fun. Not only that the choices must be open, but that problems should be different each game, though Civ provides that already.

History is nice, but I don't plays games for it. I have no interest in playing two turns and die of old age. History is the background, not the goal and shouldn't remotely be the goal. To me, history lies within the game rather than outside it. History is when the zulus invaded my pop 2 city at 1420BC and my revenge war declared at 1380BC. I don't care about character heads, but I do care about my horseman that started exploring at 3800BC, fought in 6 wars and two dozen battles and saving my capital from certain capture. That, to me, is history.

As for simulation, it should present the feel rather than the reality of the sistuation. It should follow an player's intutition and allow interesting choice to be made, but nothing more.
__________________
Originally Posted by Theben
Maybe we should push for a law that requires microbiology to be discussed in all bible study courses?
MORON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20, 2004, 16:57   #33
lord of the mark
Deity
 
lord of the mark's Avatar
 
Local Time: 03:53
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Virginia
Posts: 11,160
Quote:
Originally posted by GePap
talk about coming back from the dead here.




Yup, i saw the title and read the first couple of posts, and was about to post a link to my column, when i saw that id already done that almost a year ago.

At least this means everyones had a year to read the column
__________________
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
lord of the mark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20, 2004, 18:39   #34
Brent
Prince
 
Local Time: 23:53
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 635
I do want the option to create your own civ as part of startup, in addition to being able to use one you've previously designed or one that came with the game. We need prestatted real world civs. Maybe allow antitraits to be inputted by the player but not preprogrammed into real civs? I'd like variety in the way traits work: some can be a continuum, peaceful to militaristic, 10 steps. Some can be on or off. Some can be 1 to 10 starting at neutral. I do want to be able to adjust individual aspects of difficulty independantly, including random events and goodie huts. I like ICS, but it shouldn't be necessary.
Brent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 20, 2004, 20:34   #35
Kuciwalker
Deity
 
Kuciwalker's Avatar
 
Local Time: 03:53
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 21,822
Quote:
Originally posted by Jamski
The perfect future-Civ game for me would have to build on all the good points of the other Civ games, and pass over their weaknesses. Many people complained that Civ3 was a step back from SMAC, for example.
1) it wasn't a sequel to SMAC in the first place

2) it wasn't a step back anyway - UW was a horrible, sucky system that they got away with because they could name things "chaos gun" ( ) - it had no believability, something that is nearly essential in a civ game. SE also only worked because they didn't have to make it look like it could possibly happen. And the AI was horrible.
__________________
[Obama] is either a troll or has no ****ing clue how government works - GePap
Later amendments to the Constitution don't supersede earlier amendments - GePap
Kuciwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Apolyton Civilization Site | Copyright © The Apolyton Team