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Old September 3, 2003, 20:59   #61
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Yeah, I guess you gotta watch out for that State Secret Police, eh?

Don't you live in Austin? That's as liberal as Texas gets.
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Old September 3, 2003, 21:01   #62
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I'm sure they'd agree. They'd be alive if it weren't for Osama's desire for vengeance.
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Old September 3, 2003, 21:02   #63
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There's no chance that Texas will go to anyone but Shrub in the election.
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Old September 3, 2003, 21:05   #64
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I'm sure they'd agree. They'd be alive if it weren't for Osama's desire for vengeance.
No. I doubt it. I think they would find Osama's vengeance unjustified and ours justified.
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There's no chance that Texas will go to anyone but Shrub in the election.
So? That's just the culture. You make it sound as if Brownshirts are harrasing you at the voting stations ("There is no Opposition")
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Old September 3, 2003, 21:13   #67
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It is so tough being an ex-wrestler, Longhorn, double-major, leftist-libertarian. The world is full of angst.
Ah. A T-sip, that explains all.
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Old September 3, 2003, 21:19   #69
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I defy you to find five ugly women at A&M.

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Old September 3, 2003, 21:24   #70
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I visited UT as a USNA middie. It is target rich. They just lie out there on the lawn. And drink on 6th (5th?) street. This was back when the drinking age was 19 or 18 or such. We were of age as youngsters.
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No. I doubt it. I think they would find Osama's vengeance unjustified and ours justified.
That might be. But the opposite is probably true for the innocent civilians that have been killed by the US in Afghanistan.

But that isn't what I was saying. Again, they'd be alive if some people didn't believe that revenge was a moral course of action.

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My bad, I guess I should've spelled it out. Forgot you were a feeble-minded Aggie. What my statement means is, "There is no opposition significant enough to challenge Shrub."

In a fascist state there usually is opposition BTW. There's a reason for brown shirts, you know.
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So you find Osama's actions comparable to ours? You were against the Afghan war, weak-knee?
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Livestock doesn't count as beautiful women.
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Old September 3, 2003, 21:29   #74
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Jeebus, you're picky.
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Old September 3, 2003, 21:32   #75
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So you find Osama's actions comparable to ours?
Who said I did?

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You were against the Afghan war, weak-knee?
I supported the war, but in retrospect I think my position was wrong. The Afghan War only managed to diffuse Jihadis, while keeping the people under the heel of ruthless warlords (i.e. Khan) who often keep women under Taleban-like subjagation. And Shrub is too chickenshit to bring the Afghan people true liberty, because he doesn't want to committ enough troops to cover places other than Kabul and Kandahar, or piss off his precious allies in the "war on terror."
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Glad to see you clarify your position. (insert mud allusion) Do you think we are justified in killing Osama and his helpers or not?
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Yes. But only insofar as it's the only way to stop him from killing others. Revenge is an idiotic motive for killing someone.
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Has a preventative effect, no? Certainly the abscence of such action has the opposite, no? Ever study game theory?
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Deterrence isn't the same thing as revenge.
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Plus, I have no problem with vengeance here. Osama deserves it.
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That's the same mentality that Osama had. That it's ok to do something bad to the enemy, just because he did something bad to us.
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Yes. but our actions are in response to his. Fighting Hitler is different than being Hitler.
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Plus, I have no problem with vengeance here. Osama deserves it.
Unfortunately, the US has a terrible history of supporting more evil people in an attempt to kill the evil people who are our current enemies. Remember, we once financed Osama and the Muhajadeen to fight the Soviets; then we financed Saddam against Iran. I bet in a decade or so, the Northern Alliance peoples will be our enemies... and then you'll have more people to hate, TCO...
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I don't recall intentionally killing 2,000 or so civilians....
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More people who think that osama and the US are equivalent.
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I don't recall intentionally killing 2,000 or so civilians....
oh yeah, the innocents the US kills are "collateral damage", right? The Muslim world doesn't care about the distinction between the two.
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But it is a distinction. We go to great pains to avoid Civilian causalties, even to the point of limiting our OOB. Osama et al tries for Maximum civilian deaths. I would hazard to say the Muslim world has (collectively) the IQ of a retarded eggplant if they can't see that distinction.
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But it is a distinction. We go to great pains to avoid Civilian causalties, even to the point of limiting our OOB. Osama et al tries for Maximum civilian deaths. I would hazard to say the Muslim world has (collectively) the IQ of a retarded eggplant if they can't see that distinction.
I don't think they care... because as much "great pains" we take to avoid civie casualities, we still kill many, many, many more innocents of there's then they do of ours.
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So you find Osama and the US morally equivalent? Are you also against the Afghan war, Sava-girl?
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