Swedish foreign minister stabbed by knife - Page 8

Gramphos · September 14, 2003, 13:54

I voted yes some time ago... Don't remember what day it was.

Kropotkin · September 14, 2003, 13:56

They claimed that the number of people that voted at the post office has been record high. I heard the figure 1.3 million voters.

Spiffor · September 14, 2003, 14:00

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Originally posted by Kropotkin
They claimed that the number of people that voted at the post office has been record high. I heard the figure 1.3 million voters.

Wow, out of 7 million voters !

You sure have an efficient postal-voting system

Kropotkin · September 14, 2003, 14:03

Well, it's not Florida after all

Gramphos · September 14, 2003, 14:05

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Originally posted by Spiffor
Wow, out of 7 million voters !

You sure have an efficient postal-voting system

It's alomost easier to vote in a post office than vorting in the actual voting locales. (As long as you have all the papers needed and know what you need to do)

Spiffor · September 14, 2003, 14:05

Gotta be the climate.

Henrik · September 14, 2003, 15:28

I would've voted yes if I was old enough to vote...

Dr Strangelove · September 14, 2003, 17:29

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Originally posted by Asuka
Gee. It looks like the public discussion will be about how good the health care was at the Karolinska hospital, rather than discussing why we have this kind of hitmans that clearly are on loose after previously done something probably similar.

From what I've heard one of the wounds went into her liver, and that was probably the fatal one. Wounds of the liver can sometimes be impossible to repair because of the anatomy of the liver and it's circulation. The liver receives two sources of blood, one is the Portal vein, which brings nutrient rich blood from the intestines for the liver to process. The other, the Hepatic artery is a branch off one of the main arteries originating from the Aorta. Blood from the liver drains into the Inferior Vena Cava via tweo or three Hepatic Veins. The Hepatic veins are very short, because the liver actually abuts right on the Inferior Vena Cava. The point at which these veins enter the IVC is just below the daphragm, the sheet of muscle which seperates the abdominal cavity from the thoracic cavity. If you manage to cut one of the Hepatic Veins it's almost impossible to repair because there is no way to get at it without removing the liver. Since you can't remove the liver without having a suitable donor immediately available then a surgeon confronted with such a wound, whether at the Karolinska Institute or at Massachusetts General Hospital, or Johns Hopkins Hospital can do no more than literally watch the patient die on the operating table. Actually, if the wound really lacerates the vein at the junction with the IVC even having a transplant available would not help, since there might not be enough of a stump of the Hepatic Vein left to clamp off, and clamping the IVC at that level is nearly impossible because it's buried inside the diaphragm.

This is not to say that all liver lacerations carry such a grave prognosis. Many of such wounds are repairable. I'd also like to point out that none of us know exactly where her liver wound was. It may be that a better surgeon might hve saved her, it may be that she developed unfortunate complications, like an air embolism or a bleeding disorder, or it may be that her wound was beyond the best of surgical science.

Chemical Ollie · September 15, 2003, 14:45

A peculiar co-incidence is the twin-like similarity between Crown Princess Victoria's boyfriend Daniel (left) and the murder suspect (right). THAT would be the scandal of the millennium!

statusperfect · September 15, 2003, 17:13

http://www.expressen.se/expressen/js...?d=737&a=61893

Kitschum · September 16, 2003, 08:03

There's been an arrest just now of a man which newspaper Expressen claims is the man on the pictures ("the man from NK"). Police press conference in an hour...

http://expressen.se/expressen/jsp/po...?d=737&a=62928

Meanwhile, state television news show Rapport (via SVT Text) writes that it is not the man on the pictures according to information they have received.

http://www.svt.se/texttv/106.html

Developing...

Kitschum · September 16, 2003, 08:22

"TV4 Nyheterna" news show confirms, via unofficial sources, that the man from NK has been arrested by police at lunchtime in a raid in Stockholm. They say that a relative of the man's was arrested at the same time and a report to a news agency ("TT") claims that a patrol is on its way to his girlfriend's to take her in too. But like I said, there has been no official confirmation as of yet and even denials by police officials. We'll probably have to wait for the press conference due in 40 minutes for clarification.

Kitschum · September 16, 2003, 08:34

Just now, Rapport (on SVT) said that their information is that a man in his 30s has been arrested "in his absence". 30 minutes to the press conference.

Kropotkin · September 16, 2003, 09:16

Ha! The parody continues...

Kitschum · September 16, 2003, 09:22

Yah. At least they deny that they have anyone in their custody, but every other interesting question they refuse to answer. They say they're in an "intensive phase" of the investigation, which would explain why some of the people that used to be present at press conferences weren't there today. I figure they made a minor breakthrough but don't want to spoil it by jumping the gun - like some of the news media did.

Chemical Ollie · September 16, 2003, 16:11

They arrested him this evening, when he was watching a football game at a bar. Just to make sure, they arrested his mother too.

Buck Birdseed · September 16, 2003, 16:31

Well at least I can take solace in the fact that he wasn't an AIK supporter.

statusperfect · September 16, 2003, 17:07

He is a former cocaine abuser.

Kropotkin · September 16, 2003, 18:04

Nope, probably not a AIK-supporter. Considering that he's a cocaine abuser and a political friend of Chemical Ollie points to him being a DIF-supporter.

statusperfect · September 17, 2003, 04:48

This is getting weird. According to media he is a violent, bi-sexual, neo nazi, cocaine abuser who mingles at hip clubs in Stockholm.

The Mad Monk · September 17, 2003, 05:24

...and this differs from the rest of Sweden how?

statusperfect · September 17, 2003, 05:45

Good point monk

Combat Ingrid · September 17, 2003, 05:53

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
...and this differs from the rest of Sweden how?

Chemical Ollie · September 17, 2003, 06:37

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Originally posted by Kropotkin
..and a political friend of Chemical Ollie ...

A Christian Democrat???

Kropotkin · September 17, 2003, 07:10

Christian democrat, nazi, like there's any real difference.

Chemical Ollie · September 17, 2003, 11:33

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Originally posted by Kropotkin
Christian democrat, nazi, like there's any real difference.

And Göran Persson is a communist, right? You ought to read a highschool text book about political ideologies to sort out the basics.

By the way, nazis support AIK. At least I saw Black Army do the HEIL sign at a hockey game once.

statusperfect · September 18, 2003, 03:12

There has been a leak.

El Mundo (spanish) says his name is Per Olof Svensson and he looks like this:

Buck Birdseed · September 18, 2003, 03:36

That looks nothing like the guy in the photographs! I still say it's Westling.

Gangerolf · September 18, 2003, 03:56

he tried to commit suicide by eating his own clothes. they've got the right guy sick son of a *****

statusperfect · September 18, 2003, 04:04

Here's the link BTW

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2003/0...063786821.html