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Old September 21, 2003, 20:09   #1
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"Bolivar's Dream" has been finally released!
Any Civ2 fans in this forum know that Jesús Balsinde (aka Jay Bee, our beloved mod ), created a scenario that would be a Latin American version of his "Spanish Pride, Iberian Pride": Seven Latin American civilizations starting "from scratch" just like in a normal Civ2 game but in a Latih American map, from Southern USA states to Patagonia.

The scenario was over loooong time ago (~2000), but Jay Bee turned lazy and never released it. We even did a PBEM playtest (still at play) to test its multiplayer capabilities.

Any months ago, Jay Bee asked me to finish the scenario and release it. I couldn't at that time, but I never forget about it and now it's time to release it!

I've changed as less as possible, not only because I am a lazy b*stard (as El Awrence once said) but because I don't want to spoil the scenario. Just added any sounds, changed any leaders (updated in fact, they are the current leaders), wrote the Civilopedia for the Wonders of the World and the readme.txt

The Scenario is Available at The Spanish Civilization Site, of course.

Thank you Jesús for allowing me to spoil your scenario
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THE PLAYERS:

-Argentinians (Néstor Kirchner)
-Colombians (Álvaro Uribe)
-Peruvians (Alejandro Toledo)
-Mexicans (Vicente Fox)
-Brazilians ("Lula" da Silva)
-Cubans (Fidel Castro)
-Americans aka Gringos (Jorge Caminante Arbusto)

I know any of our friends from Spanish America will hate their leaders, but following Jay Bee's "Spanish Pride" example, I preferred to use current leader instead of deciding which leader could be more accurate.

EDIT: Typo with "Colombians". The name is properly written in the scenario.
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Old September 21, 2003, 21:26   #3
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Viva el estilo K!

And I forgive you for being a lazy b*stard, jasev. I do. I am one too.
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I knew you'd love it. Mainly because the original leader chosen by Jay Bee was Carlitos Saúl Menem
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Old September 22, 2003, 17:55   #8
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He "copiado" este thread en el foro del SLeague para darle un poquito más de publicidad. Es por el mercado internacional, ya sabéis...
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Si si. Alguien pa PBEM?
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Old September 22, 2003, 18:03   #10
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Pero el Awrence, ¡ya tenemos un PBEM en marcha desde hace mucho tiempo! Se suponía que serviría como playtest para el escenario, pero se ha alargado unos añitos más de lo previsto Echa un vistazo en el PBEM directory del foro
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Ehhhh, ya hay un PBEM sobre el escenario... que tu abandonaste por problemas de estudio, si no recuerdo mal

Pero si vamos a empezar otro, yo podría apuntarme...
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Old September 22, 2003, 18:11   #13
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Ayyyvvvé, es verdad! Ya no me acordaba de que El Aw había empezado a jugarlo.
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Si, es cierto. En realidad, el que esta loggeado en el directorio es el segundo PBEM.
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THE PLAYERS:

-Argentinians (Néstor Kirchner)
-Columbians (Álvaro Uribe)
-Peruvians (Alejandro Toledo)
-Mexicans (Vicente Fox)
-Brazilians ("Lula" da Silva)
-Cubans (Fidel Castro)
-Americans aka Gringos (Jorge Caminante Arbusto)

I know any of our friends from Spanish America will hate their leaders, but following Jay Bee's "Spanish Pride" example, I preferred to use current leader instead of deciding which leader could be more accurate.

I Kirchner
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Let me think just a minute... both Academia and El Awrence are happy with Kirchner... now I'm sure he is not a good president for Argentina
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Probably Gerard is also happy with him
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I don't think so... I haven't seen any burned banks recently
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Nota meramente trivial:

"Colombia" es oficialmente también "Colombia", (lo mismo con los adjetivos y derivados) aún en inglés, miren un atlas, almanaque mundial o diccionario gringo si lo dudan (no obstante es cierto que el error es común, porque la gente del común lo asocia a primera vista con el estado de "Columbia" o "British Columbia", pero eso no lo hace menos erróneo...en fin, es más o menos como el "slang", que se vuelve costumbre a pesar de ser incorrecto.)
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A alguien le funciona este link?
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Es que aun no tiene iconito.

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Ah, bien pensé que era algo mal configurado en mi PC
Con razón no lo podía arreglar, jaja
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Let me think just a minute... both Academia and El Awrence are happy with Kirchner... now I'm sure he is not a good president for Argentina
?? tenes algun problema conmigo que yo no sepa?

Feliz con Kirchner?
Al fin y al cabo es politico. por ahora no tengo quejas...
le sigo dando credito. eso es todo
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pero cambiaste el mapa? porque el que había antes... bueh... dejaba mucho que desear
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No, no he cambiado el mapa. ¿Cuál es el problema? (siempre estoy abierto a sugerencias, y en este escenario el mapa es facilísimo de cambiar )
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No, en general con los argentinos; nunca aciertan con sus presidentes, así que es obvio que Kirchner no puede ser el adecuado

(j/k, había smilies en el mensaje )
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¿que requisitos son necesarios para jugar el escenario? me refiero a versión del civ2 y todo eso...

no se asusten, es que se me ha fastidiado el civ3 y no puedo jugar, y estoy probando el civ2 la verdad, no quiero abrir debate sobre jugabilidad y demás, pero... uff (la única excepción son los escenarios, por supuesto)
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Nota meramente trivial:

"Colombia" es oficialmente también "Colombia", (lo mismo con los adjetivos y derivados) aún en inglés, miren un atlas, almanaque mundial o diccionario gringo si lo dudan (no obstante es cierto que el error es común, porque la gente del común lo asocia a primera vista con el estado de "Columbia" o "British Columbia", pero eso no lo hace menos erróneo...en fin, es más o menos como el "slang", que se vuelve costumbre a pesar de ser incorrecto.)

Lurkeando por ahi le dire, Sire, que en la version original los Colombians eran Colombians, no Columbians. Eso es cosa de yeisef


Y el mapa de este escenario es cojonut!!!!


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