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Old September 24, 2003, 02:21   #1
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Not getting any Great leaders over 10 games
I have PTW with 1.14f patch (1.27) crashes too much.

Now compared to vanila civ with 1.29 patch I'm getting no great leaders even when reloading 10 times a stack of 20 elite units attacking.

Is this normal for a single player PTW game ??

I've also had this problem with mods too ie Balancer 3.1

can any one confirm getting GL's with PTW 1.14f and/or PTW balancer 3.1 mod.
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Old September 24, 2003, 12:22   #2
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I don't know anything about the mod, but I got at least 2 leaders in every 1.14 game I played and that is a lot of games.
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Old October 3, 2003, 18:51   #3
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Reloading a game will have no effect unless you have Preserve Random Seed deselected in your startup preferences. The chances of getting a Leader are slim, a 1 in 16 chance. You're probably just having bad luck.
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Go on attacking with the same unit all over and over, forgetting about the game itself, just to know if you're wrong, then come here and let's discuss about this again eventually
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Old October 20, 2003, 01:43   #5
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I have preserve random seed definetly off and reload 100's of times different games/pc's etc but here's a update :

When I play the game at any other than Diety I get them, when I play diety I don't.

Conclusion you don't get great leaders (or the chance is 1in a1000 at diety level)

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Old October 20, 2003, 02:03   #6
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I recollect receiving a Great Leader in a deity game.

Umh, not that it made any difference. Cavalry and riflemen against mech infantry and tanks is a bit lopsided. Umh, unfortunately the AI had the tanks.

You can be lucky or unlucky with that 1/16 chance. In most games I get no Great leaders at all. Very occaisonally I might get 2 or 3 GLs in a single game.
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Old October 22, 2003, 01:11   #7
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Well I all of a sudden got about 10GL in 30 battles with elite units. Weird maybe i just had to restart civ3 in that case b/c I still cannot belive how i didnd't get one with over 400 elite wins during testing the other day.
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Weird maybe i just had to restart civ3 in that case b/c I still cannot belive how i didnd't get one with over 400 elite wins during testing the other day.
Just the luck of the draw. I've had a number of games when I didn't get a single one. I'm glad that Conquests will be having Scientific GLs, at least I'l be able to count on a few more. Quite often I'm in the lead tech wise.
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