"Biased" Bake Sale Shut Down By Texas University - Page 2

Inverse Icarus · September 25, 2003, 13:19

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"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

so, what other "diversities" amoung people does AA check? i don't remember filling out anything about sexuality. i remember a religious one though. what else?

Japher · September 25, 2003, 13:20

This has been done at several Universities around her, but they were never shut down... I think it's funny.

Inverse Icarus · September 25, 2003, 13:21

its cause an uppity black was in talking, japher.

DISCLAIMER: NOT ALL BLACKS ARE UPPITY. THIS ONE IS.

MichaeltheGreat · September 25, 2003, 13:21

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Originally posted by Q Cubed
what did we slant-eyes have to pay?

the white price? or the minority price?

Minority price. SCOTUS decided that one in Gong Lum v. Rice in 1928, IIRC. (Suit about probably the only Chinese-American kid in Mississippi, and whether he'd be allowed to go to the white kid's school, or the colored school out in the county, since they didn't want to build a separate slant-eye school to maintain "separate but equal"

So anyway, it's official, you're colored.

Jac de Molay · September 25, 2003, 13:22

This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

This is a typical PC rant which covers up the fact that is about free speech. Being offended is in the eye of the beholder, and they shouldn't shut it down because a few people are too thin-skinned to understand the point being driven home

Inverse Icarus · September 25, 2003, 13:23

they're colored but not AS COLORED.

let's use some newspeak.

white = doubleplusgood
asian = plusgood
hispanic = good
mixes of above= ungood
black = doubleplusungood

Inverse Icarus · September 25, 2003, 13:25

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Originally posted by Jac de Molay

This is a typical PC rant which covers up the fact that is about free speech. Being offended is in the eye of the beholder, and they shouldn't shut it down because a few people are too thin-skinned to understand the point being driven home

or too dark-skinned to accept the point being driven home.

YARRRRRRRRRRRR

Oerdin · September 25, 2003, 13:29

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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Minority price. SCOTUS decided that one in Gong Lum v. Rice in 1928, IIRC. (Suit about probably the only Chinese-American kid in Mississippi, and whether he'd be allowed to go to the white kid's school, or the colored school out in the county, since they didn't want to build a separate slant-eye school to maintain "separate but equal"

So anyway, it's official, you're colored.

I think that was changed later or at least was different in other southern states. I took and As-Am class in college to fill my multicultural requirement and in that class the teacher said most southern states didn't know how to classify Asians since society was divided up between Blacks and Whites. Since Asians obviously weren't black they were officially classified as white and used the same bathrooms, drinking fountains, and what not as whites.

DanS · September 25, 2003, 13:51

I was about to rebut Lincoln's argument, but ended up agreeing with it. While this is a clever stunt and attention-getter, it runs roughshod over the fact that only some minorities benefit from these policies. The thing is, neither the white students nor the minority students know precisely the people who benefitted, so you can't really hold it against the whole group.

Among the subset of minorities who benefit from the policies, none of them asked personally to be treated with a foot on the scale. To attack them, even indirectly, is to ask them to bear the blame for the improper policies of the school administration. It isn't fair at all to do so.

Whaleboy · September 25, 2003, 14:01

Cookies are nice

rmsharpe · September 25, 2003, 14:09

Absolutle true to what AA is.

Theben · September 25, 2003, 14:23

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Originally posted by Q Cubed
what did we slant-eyes have to pay?

the white price? or the minority price?

The Young Repup's likely forgot you existed.

Interesting. I didn't realize racism was so alive on these forums.

Sarxis · September 25, 2003, 14:33

From article:

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"They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

So what do you think 'diversity' means in this guy's dictionary?

Ned · September 25, 2003, 14:42

What SMU did in shutting down this political protest would be outrageously unconstitutional if the university were a organ of state of Texas. But, due to its name, I think SMU is private.

Even so, suppression of political dissent is wrong, Wrong, WRONG!

Ned · September 25, 2003, 14:49

More on this. SMU said the protest created a "hostile" atmosphere. This is the common reason for shutting down protests. It was loudly condemned by the Supreme Court in a famous opinion by Douglas who said the government had an obligation to protect the protesters from a violent reaction rather than suppress the protest.

Defenders of SMU must be ashamed of themselves.

yavoon · September 25, 2003, 18:13

clever protest. racism has to end for us to think of each other as equal.

Verto · September 25, 2003, 18:28

How is this any more biased or hostile than the other forms of affirmative action?

Dr Strangelove · September 25, 2003, 18:41

If I had been there I would have found a willing black person and then would have stood right in front of the booth, giving him $1.00 at a time to buy pairs of cookies. When they ran out I would have walked over to the black student union's booth and then I would have given them to the black student union to sell for $1.00 a piece. "Hey look guys! Cookies to sell!"

Imran Siddiqui · September 25, 2003, 18:58

Hilarious

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I didn't realize racism was so alive on these forums.

Yep... it's a shame so many people believe in Affirmative Action

cinch · September 25, 2003, 21:28

I agree with Lincoln and DanS.

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Dr Strangelove · September 25, 2003, 21:57

I seem to recall that in the nineteenth century SMU had a department of natural history or anthropology or something that was considered one of the the foremost institutions of "race science". The chairman of the department had written numerous works "proving" the inferiority of blacks.

MrFun · September 25, 2003, 22:56

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Yep... it's a shame so many people believe in Affirmative Action

I get tired of this ad hominem atttack -- doesn't anyone else?

Imran Siddiqui · September 25, 2003, 22:59

I was responding to an ad hominem... keep up, will you?

The Templar · September 26, 2003, 00:08

SMU admits blacks and hispanics?

blackice · September 26, 2003, 00:52

Heh squeeking on the up side and squeeking on the down side.

I want some how do I get some?

White power, opppps can't say that, ok equal opportunity for poor whites, opps can't say that. Ok how about equal opportunity of all dispite your R,R,C,B,S,O,C,D yah what about that? I can say that right? Nope cuz we are the oppresors, you and me the white folks.

Yup every day we make it a point to oppress any religion, color, difference in our society. Yup you and me we oppress, jump on, make it tough for all non-whites, right? Common admitt it you do, in secret, in capes and in hoods. We all belong to an oppress the other guy, gal club right?

Give it a break what year is it any way?
Ok it is not suppressing out-rights as white people cuz we had it good and still do.

Man how come I can not say what I see and what I feel without some jack me quick sticking a pike up my dic*?

Hummmm

I see a picture, a snap shot but I see no history here. I see no march, I see no new rules... All I see is a real bake sale based on reality and I see it shut down...

Must have been the pies? Cuz we are all equal are we not?

Haha hey, let me get some of that Jack Daniels'
Let me check out some of that porno dog
Let me hit that joint
No, no, no, no, no, no don't take em' off
Don't take em' off
Leave em' on, leave em' on
I like that ****
Now roll and light that ****
And get on with this ****!

Kuciwalker · September 26, 2003, 01:00

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A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive.

Yes, being "offensive" is now a reason to supress political expression, isn't it...

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they're colored but not AS COLORED.

let's use some newspeak.

white = doubleplusgood
asian = plusgood
hispanic = good
mixes of above= ungood
black = doubleplusungood

Uber

I always love 1984 references

And regarding affirmative action.... *points at sig*

Uncle Sparky · September 26, 2003, 01:13

What about people of mixed races and hermaphrodites? What about a transgender aboriginal ? As usual, Republicans think in very narrow terms.

... besides, I thought only white people ate rice crispy squares ...

Kuciwalker · September 26, 2003, 01:23

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As usual, Republicans think in very narrow terms.

I'm hoping this was a joke... (no smiley worries me)

MrFun · September 26, 2003, 01:48

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I was responding to an ad hominem... keep up, will you?

Yeah, but you would be surprised at how many people think the cliche knee-jerk statement, "all supporters of AA are racist" is a legitimate argument, rather than an ad hominem.

I stated what I said to cover my bases, not because I can't keep up.

Imran Siddiqui · September 26, 2003, 01:52

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I stated what I sad to cover my bases

Ah, I see. The Democratic Party would have come after you if you didn't

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