Are you unemployed? - Page 2

Provost Harrison · September 25, 2003, 17:11

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Originally posted by Caligastia

Nice. What's your new job?

A glorified penpusher as I vowed never to return to research

Compliance. I deal with GMP stuff and batch release for Novartis (pharmaceutical company) plus I will be looking into their archiving and documentation system stuff. Looks like the experience in my last job came in handy. Although I definitely intend to stay out of the laboratory from now on.

Skanky Burns · September 25, 2003, 17:14

Underemployed. I try to exist on 16 hours pay a week.

I'm searching for a job in a new field though (hopefully getting a traineeship or such) and plan to go back to university next year as well.

Provost Harrison · September 25, 2003, 17:17

It's a real rut nowadays Skanky...you try your best but you invariably end up exploited, overworked and underutilised. Give up now, suicide is the only way

Japher · September 25, 2003, 17:21

PH, your QA? Man that would suck.

Ben Kenobi · September 25, 2003, 17:22

I'm a student but I (supposedly) do that full time.

Part-time research, basically whenever I have time.

Provost Harrison · September 25, 2003, 17:30

I am indeed QA...

pchang · September 25, 2003, 17:35

I get paid, but at less than 1/3 of what I used to make. That is the price one pays for trying to start your own company. I have decided to give up and try to return to the regular rat race.

SlowwHand · September 25, 2003, 17:36

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Originally posted by Oerdin
I seem to notice that a great many of the regulars (myself included) here at poly are either unemployed or underemployed. I'd like to start a nonscientific poll to see if this is true.

Also how do you explain the poll results?

Home foreclosures are at a 30+ year high.
Personal bankruptcy is at an all-time high.

This is the worst since the Great Depression.
Not just my opinion. Fact.

pchang · September 25, 2003, 17:36

I believe the industry parlance for PH's job is called:
Pharmaco-vigilence
You've got to love language like that.

MrFun · September 25, 2003, 17:39

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Originally posted by SlowwHand

Home foreclosures are at a 30+ year high.
Personal bankruptcy is at an all-time high.

This is the worst since the Great Depression.
Not just my opinion. Fact.

It's that bad??

Why are people not calling this a depression then?

Provost Harrison · September 25, 2003, 17:42

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Originally posted by pchang
I believe the industry parlance for PH's job is called:
Pharmaco-vigilence
You've got to love language like that.

Pharmaco-vigilence

I'll have to remember that one the next time I update my CV

Datajack Franit · September 25, 2003, 17:42

I guess not having the money to begin my college studies makes me an unemployed person

SlowwHand · September 25, 2003, 17:44

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Originally posted by MrFun

It's that bad??

Why are people not calling this a depression then?

I have no idea.

MrFun · September 25, 2003, 17:45

Just maybe psychological reasons -- not willing to call it what it is?

Wittlich · September 25, 2003, 17:48

There isn't a "Retired" option in the poll!

So I'll cast my vote here:

Fulltime Student / Military Retiree

Chemical Ollie · September 25, 2003, 17:54

I have a full-time job and currently a lot of overtime. I surf 'poly at my lunch break and at home after my wife and kids went to sleep.

Oerdin · September 25, 2003, 17:58

Yeah, there is no retired option and there is no banana option. I did say it way a nonscientific poll though.

SlowwHand · September 25, 2003, 17:58

Wittlich, you ****ing liar.
See how you Gay bastards are?

Skanky Burns · September 25, 2003, 18:04

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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
It's a real rut nowadays Skanky...you try your best but you invariably end up exploited, overworked and underutilised. Give up now, suicide is the only way

At least you didn't get a job as a psychologist.

Dr Strangelove · September 25, 2003, 18:11

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Originally posted by Skanky Burns

At least you didn't get a job as a psychologist.

He could be a psychologist for VHEM!

I'm still employed....for now.

SlowwHand · September 25, 2003, 18:16

No kidding, sawbones?
There will always be hypochondriacs wanting to throw money at you.

Sava · September 25, 2003, 18:20

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Originally posted by MrFun

It's that bad??

Why are people not calling this a depression then?

because super rich corporations are still making money... its known as a growth recession. The GDP still grows because the outliers at the top scew the numbers. This was the case during the 80's... Bush has continued Reagan's economic policies of "rich get richer screw everyone else", only Bush has coupled it with expanding "free trade" so that American jobs are being exported. You'd think America would have learned after 8 years of voodoo-economics doing jackshit not to give Repugs the power to enact their dopey economic plans... apparantly not. I guess it takes millions of job losses, stagnation of wages, and excessive wealth concentration at the top to really wake people up.

The fact is, things have been getting progressively worse since the 60's. Clinton helped create an opprotunity for job creation as we saw almost record low unemployment numbers, but all of that went to **** once Bush got in office.

Personally, I think we need to put back in place the progressive taxation system during the 50's and 60's and use revenues to create public education jobs, a national health-care system, and improve our infrastructure. This will put people to work and give consumers money to spend, spurring the economy. We also need to put a stop to wasteful government pork and corporate welfare. Business should get its money from the market economy, fueled by consumer spending... not by tax-credits or handouts. But as long as corporations, the rich elite, special interests, and mass media influence our government, this rejuvenation of the American Dream isn't likely to happen.

el freako · September 25, 2003, 18:38

It's not a depression because that would be much worse.

Just because the current figures are the worst since the depression doesn't mean that the US is nearly in one again.

The main factor in the 'jobless growth' is the improved productivity growth - the economy must grow faster than before to generate the same number of net new jobs.
However it isn't growing any faster because far fewer people are entering the workforce nowdays - the rate of participation in the labour force, which had been rising since the late 1960's, came to a halt in the 1990's.
That, coupled with faster productivity growth, means that whereas a slowdown like this would have translated into sluggish job creation in the past now it means that employment is much more likely to shrink.

Hmm, fast productivity growth and a sluggish job market?

Welcome to the european economy circa 1975-95

Kidicious · September 25, 2003, 20:55

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Originally posted by Oerdin
I know we have a bunch of unemployed students here. Where are you all hiding?

I'm an unemployed student. I went back to school because I was unemployed. I count that.

Zero · September 25, 2003, 20:59

full time student actively seeking part time job.

Kidicious · September 25, 2003, 21:00

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Originally posted by el freako
However it isn't growing any faster because far fewer people are entering the workforce nowdays - the rate of participation in the labour force, which had been rising since the late 1960's, came to a halt in the 1990's.
That, coupled with faster productivity growth, means that whereas a slowdown like this would have translated into sluggish job creation in the past now it means that employment is much more likely to shrink.

Interesting, but our population is still growing. Why should labor market participation matter? Aren't you just saying that since there aren't as many jobs that people aren't spending as much. How would a larger labor force spend more money if there are no jobs for them?

Wittlich · September 25, 2003, 21:13

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Wittlich, you ****ing liar.
See how you Gay bastards are?

How so? Because I followed along with them not "Asking", me "No Telling" and they in turn, "Didn't Pursue"?

Is that the "lie" you're referring to?

Concerning how us "Gay bastards are" ... well, we're F A B U L O U S !

Dr Strangelove · September 25, 2003, 21:33

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
No kidding, sawbones?
There will always be hypochondriacs wanting to throw money at you.

Because the doctor who owned the clinic I work at died in April his wife has one year to sell the place, so one way or the other I'm likely to be out of a job soon. This area has become dominated by a very large multi-clinic practice against which I alone would have almost no chance. I hate the idea of moving because the kids are so happy here it almost seems like a crime against nature to move them.

MrFun · September 25, 2003, 22:50

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Originally posted by Wittlich

How so? Because I followed along with them not "Asking", me "No Telling" and they in turn, "Didn't Pursue"?

Is that the "lie" you're referring to?

Concerning how us "Gay bastards are" ... well, we're F A B U L O U S !

And if I would ever have been drafted, I would just proclaim my sexual orientation, and they would let me go, right?

Dauphin · September 25, 2003, 22:58

I am underemployed. I haven't worked full time in about a year. I am starting a part time job (data entry) on Monday though, which will net me some cash. Hopefully the 2 weeks initial will be extended.

I would complain that I am being taxed unfairly, no Personal Allowance for me and I can only claim back pension payments when I leave the country, but then I am a filthy foreigner stealing hard working Australians' jobs.