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Old October 7, 2003, 21:55   #1
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Americans w/ Disabilities Act Stupidity
I am in the process of installing two "baby changing stations". It tells me that the top of the station can be no higher than 54" from the floor, to make access easier for people in wheelchairs.

Fine.

However, when the table is folded out, it is a mere 32" off of the floor. Which is uncomfortable for the majority of the baby changing population.

This is plain stupid.

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yes but people without disabilities are able to move their bodies to various positions quite easily.

disabled people can't do that.
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I was at a concert (A KISS concert for your information) and this elderly fellow in a motorized wheelchair slammed into me (I was on my way to get myself a vastly overpriced soda).

I moved and apologised (Despite the fact that it was not my fault) and he started yelling and glaring at me, which I could have dealt with but then he started gathering a crowd to.... God knows what.... lynch me?

His attendant was a real b*t*h as well, and she was proactive about it.

Stupid Disabled people.
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Well, most drive-through money machines are designed to be easily accessible to pickup trucks and SUVs, making them difficult to reach from a standard automobile.
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Old October 7, 2003, 22:37   #5
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yes but people without disabilities are able to move their bodies to various positions quite easily.

disabled people can't do that.
How many people in wheelchairs do you see toting a baby around?

32 inches?! Do you want to kneel on a bathroom floor to change a diaper?

This is simply a case of, "the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many."

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Well, most drive-through money machines are designed to be easily accessible to pickup trucks and SUVs, making them difficult to reach from a standard automobile.
not in my city. It's a realy pain getting to with my Dodge Ram 1/2 ton 4 X 4.
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Old October 7, 2003, 23:25   #7
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Oh Yeah? Well I usually have to get out of my car and stand up to put my card in the machine!
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Old October 7, 2003, 23:31   #8
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That's nothing. They don't even have drive-thru money machines where I live.
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I have to chuckle every time I go to a drive up cash machine and see the Braille for the blind. Yeah, I know they can walk up to the machine... but I still have to laugh.
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What's so unusual about that? We have many blind drivers in my town.
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lol

Yeah... it sure seems that way
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Old October 8, 2003, 00:29   #12
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Ahh, we call just those...women ;-)
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Those evil handicapped people wanting to be treated equally!!
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Really, sometimes things are just plain silly. The majority of the work I do here is making our websites accessible. So you have to ask youself, exactly how many blind people need contact lenses? Even worse is doing the same thing for the eye docotr's sites. How many blind eye doctors are there?

Seriously though, you do have to consider that the vast majority of our customers have vision problems.


(and my contract was extended through the end of the year)
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Re: Americans w/ Disabilities Act Stupidity
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I am in the process of installing two "baby changing stations". It tells me that the top of the station can be no higher than 54" from the floor, to make access easier for people in wheelchairs.

Fine.

However, when the table is folded out, it is a mere 32" off of the floor. Which is uncomfortable for the majority of the baby changing population.

This is plain stupid.

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There are some stupid implementations of ADA requirements, but the problem with allowing "common sense" exceptions is that everybody will find ways to not change or do anything, and there really is no enforcement resource to determine if an exception is a common sense one, or if it's a "**** the cripples, I can't be bothered" one.
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(and my contract was extended through the end of the year)
and if I could read that, I'd tell you congratulations.
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ADA makes a hell of a lot more sense than EEOC.
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(and my contract was extended through the end of the year)
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The brail on drive up ATMs I think has to do with the cost implications of making two types of buttons (one with braile one without)

Wome drivers just don't pay attention, asian drivers are just bad... Old women drivers!!!

Che Work slower it could become permanent... At least we won't have to listen to him complain about not being able to pay rent this year

Ah, oh yeah baby stations: Even though they are low it is better than getting sue because some idiot rolled their kid off a table 5-feet high and cracking it's head open... At least at that height not much damage can be done.
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In all seriousness though, there are some cases of rather tyrannical enforcement of the ADA. I'm all for equal access for disabled people, but I don't think it justifies the sometimes awful treatment of individuals and businesses who are honestly trying to comply.
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Cause blacks and women shouldn't have equal protections as white males, right?

The EEOC is one of the better departments. They can sometimes be misguided, but which departments don't have their share of those?
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ADA makes a hell of a lot more sense than EEOC.
Cause blacks and women shouldn't have equal protections as white males, right?

The EEOC is one of the better departments. They can sometimes be misguided, but which departments don't have their share of those?
...i.e., I'm usually against Big Gummint, but this particular program benefits me so it's okay.
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