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It really does look freakish next to all those other shorter buildings.
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That's the problem with ultra tall buildings. In the end they just don't fit in with the other architecture of a city unless the city's sky line looks like Chicago.
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October 18, 2003, 00:31
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So...how many culture points does it generate?
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Not as many as This, I'd wager:
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October 18, 2003, 01:18
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Is that the new plans for the WTC?
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October 18, 2003, 02:02
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Too bad for when the US converts to metric. 
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I've lost faith, that should be if, not when. I don't believe anymore that the US will convert to metric or any other reasonable measurement system(assuming a better one is designed).
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October 18, 2003, 02:18
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Naturally US won't convert to metric. It will be partitioned by Canada, Cuba, and Mexico far too quickly to get a decent chance of that. 
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October 18, 2003, 02:22
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Oh thank GOD. I was really beginning to worry.
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October 18, 2003, 02:31
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Originally posted by geeslaka
I've lost faith, that should be if, not when. I don't believe anymore that the US will convert to metric or any other reasonable measurement system(assuming a better one is designed).
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Ah, but it's already begun.
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October 18, 2003, 02:34
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Architects use inches and feet, engineers centimeters and meters. I always wonder how the heck buildings manage to stand up in this country.
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October 18, 2003, 02:48
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And the 'Penis Envy' building wars continue  .
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and now, not only is it longer, theyre going for "ribbed for her pleasure" appeal too.
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October 18, 2003, 03:24
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Who cares about who has the biggest tower? It's all about beauty and in that aspect these two will never be surpassed:
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October 18, 2003, 04:17
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You have good taste in buildings.
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October 18, 2003, 06:15
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Who cares about who has the biggest tower? It's all about beauty and in that aspect these two will never be surpassed:
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You're talking about beauty, and then you post this? 
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October 18, 2003, 06:32
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Does that building look to anyone else like a bunch of Chinese food cartons stacked on top of each other? Or am I just hungry?
Mmmm...Kung Pao Towers...
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October 18, 2003, 06:49
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You can't imagine how much money they got for doing this huge advertising
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October 18, 2003, 06:52
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God that building in Taipei is awful. Awful!
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October 18, 2003, 06:57
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Architects use inches and feet, engineers centimeters and meters. I always wonder how the heck buildings manage to stand up in this country.
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* cough mars cough *
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October 18, 2003, 07:03
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Alva: 
But seriously, it's scary to think of the consequences if someone confuses kilos with pounds when building things like this 
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October 18, 2003, 11:24
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Although I agree the Crysler building is beautiful, and a wonderful example of Art Deco architecture, I think the Empire State is a bit of an eyesore.
I loved the 'kissing towers' design by Norman Foster (IIRC) for Ground Zero, however it didn't get to the last 2. I think the Liebesind design is good though.
I look forward to a day when we get skyscrapers that are as beautiful as Gothic and Renaissance buildings, however I can't see that happening. The way modern trends are going, I think the Crysler building will remain, IMHO, the most beautiful skyscraper.
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October 18, 2003, 12:07
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hahahah thats great
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October 18, 2003, 12:16
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It's better to think that the Chrysler building will be surpassed in beauty. I would be very happy if it were, because that would mean that there are at least two very beautiful skyscrapers. 
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October 18, 2003, 12:20
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The reason why I like this building is that it is one of the only skyscrapers to incorporate a lot of Asian design motifs. I like to see fresh ideas--not ones that were primarily pioneered in the US. If Asians make beautiful skyscrapers, then that will inspire our own skyscraper builders.
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October 18, 2003, 12:30
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Are there any skyscrapers with parks on top?
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October 18, 2003, 12:32
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No chance the Chrysler will be surpassed. Today's western achitecture is all about function and economics. Form and style were thrown out a long time ago...
I bought a book on cast-iron architecture once (in NYC) and the bookseller got all upset and started to rant about how they were turning his city in a glass and concrete jungle. He was right 
About an Asian style of building, although it's not my taste, maybe they are right about it. The whole world is beginning to look the same anywhere.
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October 18, 2003, 14:43
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I really like this building
Though I agree with Hueij about the twin towers Chrysler and Empire have STYLE
I think there has definitley been a return to style though in the past 10 years, things have definitley improved
The 1970s was the WORST -- damn functionality
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October 18, 2003, 15:19
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I like the building the Taiwanese put up as well. Certainly loads better than the monstrosities put up by their mainland counterparts
Ugh... 
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October 18, 2003, 15:34
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Nah, Drake. That one actually looks great as part of the skyline.
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October 18, 2003, 15:35
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No it doesn't. You just don't notice the horrible eyesore as much when you're distracted by the other, somewhat attractive buildings.
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October 18, 2003, 15:44
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I do notice it. It goes very well together. really.
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October 18, 2003, 16:04
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Some incarnations of the Asian (especially Chinese)aesthetic can be perplexing to westerners. Skyscrapers, vehicles, fashions... Some of the skyscrapers in Shanghai are gorgeous. Others are odd. Some are downright hideous, to my eyes.
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I think the first tower looks really good.
This one does not.
A giant bottle opener? What were they thinking?
Shanghai world financial tower.
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Designed by an American firm.
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October 18, 2003, 16:14
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Who cares about who has the biggest tower? It's all about beauty and in that aspect these two will never be surpassed:
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I agree - in my opinion the Chrysler Building is still the most attractive!
Coincidentally, just read a few days ago I read that the breathtaking spire was originally going to be much plainer. Then ground was broke for another - taller- skyscraper (sorry, forgot which one). So, the builders of the Chrysler Tower had the marvelous spire secretly constructed inside, then hoisted into place at the last minute, regaining the "tallest building" distinction! Unfortunately, construction on the Empire State Building began before the Chrysler Buiding was completed, so its reign was a short one.
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