Thanks to some whiny people I don't get to read Tuesday Morning Quarterback any more - Page 5

yavoon · October 23, 2003, 00:10

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Originally posted by lord of the mark

I rather suspect the right to fire at will is not just a concern of bigwigs in washington - i rather suspect its something that every chamber of commerce from North Carolina to Alaska is intent on defending.

no idea what your actual point is. seems like it makes no substantive difference and that if u had comprehended the gist and not the letter of my post u would realize that.

yavoon · October 23, 2003, 00:13

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Originally posted by MrFun

Wrong there -- I do not want to make it illegal to offend other people. That would just be retarded and against freedom of speech.

However, I get tired of some others who express outrage or bitter sarcasm towards me, just because to me personally, I find some slur comment offensive.

then u r probably just running the crowd. and u merely get hit w/ the spray.

Ben Kenobi · October 23, 2003, 00:15

Hey Aggie.

Did you forget about Concordia so soon? Way more Muslims in Canada than Jews.

yavoon · October 23, 2003, 00:17

as an aside, there's probably no better way to make me an anti semite then to go around shutting up ppl who happen to have an opinion.

Agathon · October 23, 2003, 00:31

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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Hey Aggie.

Did you forget about Concordia so soon? Way more Muslims in Canada than Jews.

How could I forget when I mentioned it in a previous post?

As I said, the coverage of that was rather one-sided, and not in favour of the Islamic students. In fact it wasn't the just the Islamic students.

Anyway, the fact that anti-semitism gets so much play when I believe Canadian Muslims have a worse time of it (especially post 911) speaks to my point.

Agathon · October 23, 2003, 00:35

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Originally posted by notyoueither
http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/ant..._incidents.asp

Now, pin head, do you want to maintain that there isn't a problem?

Yawn.... I already responded to this. That's relatively small fry compared to the stuff I mentioned before.

And if you are going to start calling me an anti-semite and a Nazi then you have essentially proved my point.

edit: and you, of all the posters on this forum, are not one to be calling others a pin head.

notyoueither · October 23, 2003, 01:22

And here I was feeling bad about being too harsh.

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Oh yeah - how many Jewish folks have died in shootouts? What percentage fall under the poverty line? What percentage fail to graduate high school? What percentage are unemployed? Homeless? Subject to domestic violence?

So, poverty is something that does not effect jewish people? Why, are they all rich and ruling the world according to your comfort zone?

There are no jewish high school drop outs? Why, they have some racial edge?

Jewish women are never beaten by husbands? You have some facts to back that up?

And, just WTF does all that have to do with religiously or racially motivated violence against people by people they are not related to? What's the answer, genius?

Why do you want to deny that there are problems related to anti-semitism even in a 'safe' place, like Canada?

notyoueither · October 23, 2003, 01:47

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Originally posted by Agathon

Yawn.... I already responded to this. That's relatively small fry compared to the stuff I mentioned before.

You mean you said that they aired a show you did not like and you assume that they are part of the ZOG conspiracy.

Keep digging, buddy.

KrazyHorse · October 23, 2003, 11:05

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Originally posted by notyoueither

Ahh, we are getting closer to the 'jews rule the world' theory. Please tell.

'Pro-Israel media empire'? Are those the people with whom you disagree that anti-semitism could be a problem?

As for how much is committed by angry Arabs... No need to go outside the family. White neo-Nazis can fill the quota quite well, I think.

If you'd watched the show, you'd know what he was talking about. Piece of **** masquerading as journalism. And Jews don't have to rule the world for there to be a "certain" media conglomerate that's extremely friendly towards Israel.

Plus one of my best friends from McGill was on the show. The big guy with the dark hair and possibly glasses who's head of Hillel at McGill and Concordia...he was a classmate of mine through uni and CEGEP. Unfortunately leading Hillel turned him into a schizoid with an inability to talk about anything other than Israel...

KrazyHorse · October 23, 2003, 11:10

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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Hey Aggie.

Did you forget about Concordia so soon? Way more Muslims in Canada than Jews.

Only as of the last 5 years or so have there been more Muslims than Jews in Canada.

lord of the mark · October 23, 2003, 11:19

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Originally posted by Agathon

What's bizarrely funny is that, of all minorities, Jewish people probably have it the best. They are certainly much better off than Hispanics or Afro-Americans. Anti-semitism exists, but it has been notoriously unsuccessful at immiserating the Jewish community who seem to be doing quite well in Canada and the US.

I mean, imagine it, a wealthy, well educated and prosperous community with a very low rate of incarceration and victimization by the police is complaining about their lot. How ridiculous.

This doesn't excuse anti-semitism, but it makes me wonder why it should have that much of a profile seeing as how it doesn't seem to cause much evil.

So its ok, to say racist things about Japenese Americans, cause they do well, but not Hispanics, cause they dont?

Racism is wrong without regard to the socio-economic status of the vicitms. One cannot be sure of the long term consequences of hate, and so it makes no sense to evaluate its seriousness based on its current effects.

I also note that hate is often directed against affluent minorities - Jews in 1920's Germany, Chinese in south east Asia, Protestants in 17thc France, etc.

lord of the mark · October 23, 2003, 11:23

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Originally posted by Agathon

Subject to domestic violence?

Jews and domestic violence

lord of the mark · October 23, 2003, 11:25

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Originally posted by yavoon
as an aside, there's probably no better way to make me an anti semite then to go around shutting up ppl who happen to have an opinion.

but i didnt want Easterbrook shut up. So far as i can tell no Jew other than Eisner did. So should all Jews suffer cause of Eisner?

lord of the mark · October 23, 2003, 11:31

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Originally posted by Agathon

Yawn.... I already responded to this. That's relatively small fry compared to the stuff I mentioned before.

And if you are going to start calling me an anti-semite and a Nazi then you have essentially proved my point.

edit: and you, of all the posters on this forum, are not one to be calling others a pin head.

what stuff you mentioned before? i dont see any incidents in Canada youve mentioned.

Maybe its different up there, but anti-muslim incidents get lots of play here in the states. Just as much as antisemitic incidents.

Both are wrong. Both should be fought. Theres no point I can see in trying to start a rivalry about which is more serious. Bigotry is bigotry.

Due minorities (not just Jews) often thrive despite bigotry - yup. Is this a reason to minimize the importance of bigotry - i dont think so.

yavoon · October 23, 2003, 11:58

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Originally posted by lord of the mark

but i didnt want Easterbrook shut up. So far as i can tell no Jew other than Eisner did. So should all Jews suffer cause of Eisner?

no, but lotsa things shouldn't happen yet do.

lord of the mark · October 23, 2003, 12:05

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Originally posted by yavoon

no, but lotsa things shouldn't happen yet do.

yup, but what it says is that some folks are gonna become antisemites cause of things i have no control over (like Eisners actions) regardless of whether i take issue with things i think are antisemitic or not - so i might as well take issue with them.

yavoon · October 23, 2003, 12:20

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Originally posted by lord of the mark

yup, but what it says is that some folks are gonna become antisemites cause of things i have no control over (like Eisners actions) regardless of whether i take issue with things i think are antisemitic or not - so i might as well take issue with them.

well u and eisner are both 1 person

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Dis · November 2, 2003, 23:01

see if this link works.

The last TMQ I can find.

http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Dis · November 2, 2003, 23:07

check this link out.

about 1/4 of the way down he discusses the fate of TMQ. And a decent article on forest fires as well.

http://www.tnr.com/easterbrook.mhtml

badams52 · November 12, 2003, 01:41

TMQ is back on track!

http://www.tnr.com/easterbrook.mhtml (for announcement)
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/ (for the new site hosting TMQ)
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/tmq...ment=1&vmid=76 (direct link to TMQ)

Drake Tungsten · November 12, 2003, 02:14

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Tuesday Morning Quarterback was not aware that anything buzzed with excitement in Nebraska.

Screw Easterbrook, that anti-Semitic bastard.

Dis · November 12, 2003, 04:35

woohoo!

not the pretty format they had before, but better than nothing.

badams52 · November 25, 2003, 13:39

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Dear Friends of Tuesday Morning Quarterback,

Here's my Big Announcement. As of today around noon Eastern, TMQ will find its new home. That home is NFL.com.

I thank the Outsiders for hosting TMQ during its period of exile, and urge all the readers who in recent weeks have found this amazing action-packed site to continue to use FootballOutsiders.com.

A million thanks to everyone who has sent me warm wishes, and I'll see you over at NFL.com.

In haiku,

TMQ on league's
own site? The football gods have
more pull than we knew.

Best,

Gregg Easterbrook

Dis · November 25, 2003, 17:14

good news. Though the NFL can be just as anally retentive and PC as Disney/ESPN.

Theben · November 25, 2003, 19:23

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If said prejudices continued to apply in the American society, these people would have a point. But I have yet to meet an American who actually believes the Jews are worshipping money above all else.

Come on down to Indiana then, cause they're plenty of people who think that jews are moneygrubbers.