I just got some 'new' games

SpencerH · October 23, 2003, 17:02

Now that I have a PC that can run them properly I finally picked up Warcraft III and medieval total war and I'm looking forward to hours and hours of creative destruction.

I'll buy RoN later.

SpencerH · October 23, 2003, 21:49

What, no comments?

You're just buying those now?

They're great!

They suck!

Civ3 rules!

Civ3 sucks!

Wait for conquests!

General Ludd · October 23, 2003, 21:53

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Originally posted by SpencerH
What, no comments?

I'm excited for you.

Happy?

GhengisFarb™ · October 23, 2003, 22:06

Yay, I never found either of them all that interesting to purchase them in the first place. Sorry.

Space05us · October 23, 2003, 22:40

Civ3??

Nubclear · October 23, 2003, 23:30

sucks.

Shogun was too shallow for me. Not to mention it had problems with my modern monitor.

I would've gotten RoN. Pretty good.

vovan · October 23, 2003, 23:42

Warcraft 3 is awesome!

I still suck majorly in MP, but I enjoy SP immensly. Did you get it together with the expansion?

Datajack Franit · October 23, 2003, 23:43

I HATED Shogun Total War

Space05us · October 24, 2003, 00:40

Shogun: Total War? He said he got Medieval: Total War, sucks more Im sure (I own it)

Its fun for the first 10-15 hours of play but it quickly hit the stack for me.

Adagio · October 24, 2003, 05:32

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Originally posted by SpencerH
Now that I have a PC that can run them properly I finally picked up Warcraft III and medieval total war and I'm looking forward to hours and hours of creative destruction.

I'll buy RoN later.

I don't know about Total War, but Warcraft III wasn't that great... it's just about build-a-large-army-ASAP-or lose... and the graphics sucks pretty much... even for those days standard... though I've heard there's a good mod avaliable, which makes the game great, haven't tried it yet though...

DrSpike · October 24, 2003, 05:35

WC3 is one the better and more varied RTS in terms of different styles of mission, as anyone that's actually played it will tell you. And MP (TFT now) is great.

MTW is a solid game, though Shogun was more of a novelty at the time it came out.

SpencerH · October 24, 2003, 07:20

I knew I wasnt gonna have to go inhabit some other sites. Can y'all feel the love?

I liked playing WC2 (SP) just as fun entertainment. So far, WC3 looks great and the game changes seem to allow for some different strategies than 'build a big army and crush your opponent clickfests'. We'll see!

I loved the tactical combat in shogun, but the strategic side of the game was too simple. From what I've read, MTW seems to have improved both sides of the game enormously so I'm really looking forward to it. They've incorporated some of the combat gameplay ideas I suggested to Vel for Candlebre so thats a step in the right direction

Apparently, the next iteration Roman War (or something) due out late next year looks even better.

lord of the mark · October 24, 2003, 09:38

i too am waiting to buy certain games till i get a new PC. MTW is definitely on my list.

vmxa1 · October 24, 2003, 11:40

I have had WC3 since day one and still have not played it.

DrSpike · October 24, 2003, 11:56

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I have had WC3 since day one and still have not played it.

Shouldn't really have bought it then.

Standup · October 24, 2003, 12:39

There isn't that much to the strategic side of MTW either. The diplomacy is pretty limited and the large scale strategy is limited to 'where shall i invade next'. Even so its fun for a while and the tactical 3D combat is pretty good with a wide variety of units.

Does anyone watch Time Commanders on BBC2 in the UK - i've only seem one but i assume that's a modified MTW engine ? I found it surprisingly good viewing but i wondered if the AI was rewritten for each battle ?

Space05us · October 24, 2003, 21:54

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There isn't that much to the strategic side of MTW either. The diplomacy is pretty limited and the large scale strategy is limited to 'where shall i invade next'. Even so its fun for a while and the tactical 3D combat is pretty good with a wide variety of units.

the "tactical" combat is easily masterd by just a few formations. The AI is laaaaaaame.....and.....um....and the Pope is an A-hole!

alva · October 25, 2003, 12:22

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Does anyone watch Time Commanders on BBC2 in the UK - i've only seem one but i assume that's a modified MTW engine ?

rome - total war

Traianvs · October 25, 2003, 14:10

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Originally posted by Standup
There isn't that much to the strategic side of MTW either. The diplomacy is pretty limited and the large scale strategy is limited to 'where shall i invade next'. Even so its fun for a while and the tactical 3D combat is pretty good with a wide variety of units.

Does anyone watch Time Commanders on BBC2 in the UK - i've only seem one but i assume that's a modified MTW engine ? I found it surprisingly good viewing but i wondered if the AI was rewritten for each battle ?

I have watched it one time when some noobs had to replay Caesar's battle against the Helvetii..

looked fun, but the graphics were not that impressive (I expect rome to do much better)

and another thing is that it had some strategy in it, but it's still not the real thing.. I saw hordes of troops run kilometers at the same pace, with heavy armour on for example,
and basically in ancient battles most casualties were not made during the battle itself, but after the battle, when the enemy was routed.. so they threw their shields on the ground and started running... => that's where the cavalry started its slaughter

in the battle they simply killed a troop, and then went on to the next troop

About the AI, I can imagine they give specific instructions for each battle (in the show), but as the player can do anything he wants (unexpected movements etc) I think the AI still needs to know how to react to that... the programmer can't predict what the player is going to do right?

SpencerH · October 25, 2003, 14:36

I've had three shots at a WC3 scenario and I've been crushed each time. Fantastic graphics though.

Just for comparison, I beat RoN on 'Tough' by my third game.